<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><br></div><div>On Jan 11, 2017, at 23:12, Tony Allevato <<a href="mailto:tony.allevato@gmail.com">tony.allevato@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 6:46 PM Jay Abbott via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_2644463424369178424markdown-here-wrapper gmail_msg"><p style="margin:0px 0px 1.2em!important" class="gmail_msg">As Rob Mayoff pointed out, you can use MODIFIER LETTER PRIME - or PRIME, DOUBLE PRIME, and TRIPLE PRIME - which makes more sense than an apostrophe. Now if only there were a keyboard that had a touch-screen at the top which could be used for typing context-sensitive characters that would otherwise be difficult to type. So yeah, solution is to make characters easier to type, not modify the language. If like me you don't have such a keyboard, you can always use <code style="font-size:1em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,Courier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:pre-wrap;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-radius:3px;display:inline" class="gmail_msg">ctrl</code>+<code style="font-size:1em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,Courier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:pre-wrap;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-radius:3px;display:inline" class="gmail_msg">⌘</code>+<code style="font-size:1em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,Courier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:pre-wrap;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-radius:3px;display:inline" class="gmail_msg"><space></code> and type ‘PRIME’ to find it, then pick it from recently used/favourites.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1.2em!important" class="gmail_msg">Regarding the other point, I agree that character literals would be handy, but again I’m not sure if apostrophe is the right character to indicate it. Although it is familiar, perhaps LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK and RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK would be better, they can be relatively easily typed with <code style="font-size:1em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,Courier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:pre-wrap;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-radius:3px;display:inline" class="gmail_msg">⎇</code>+<code style="font-size:1em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,Courier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:pre-wrap;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-radius:3px;display:inline" class="gmail_msg">]</code> and <code style="font-size:1em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,Courier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:pre-wrap;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-radius:3px;display:inline" class="gmail_msg">⎇</code>+<code style="font-size:1em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,Courier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:pre-wrap;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-radius:3px;display:inline" class="gmail_msg">⇧</code>+<code style="font-size:1em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,Courier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:pre-wrap;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-radius:3px;display:inline" class="gmail_msg">]</code> respectively. Xcode could also convert two apostrophes into ‘’ for you and your fingers would quickly learn to type <code style="font-size:1em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,Courier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:pre-wrap;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-radius:3px;display:inline" class="gmail_msg">'</code> <code style="font-size:1em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,Courier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:pre-wrap;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-radius:3px;display:inline" class="gmail_msg">'</code> <code style="font-size:1em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,Courier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:pre-wrap;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-radius:3px;display:inline" class="gmail_msg">←</code> <code style="font-size:1em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,Courier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:pre-wrap;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-radius:3px;display:inline" class="gmail_msg">‹char›</code>.</p></div></div></blockquote><div>I'm not entirely convinced that we *need* special Character literals. The type checker is already able to treat a double-quoted string literal as a String, Character, or UnicodeScalar based on context in most places. Wouldn't it be more valuable to fill the gaps, like Charlie Monroe mentioned above, where these work:</div><div><br></div><div> let c: Character = "a"</div><div> let c = "a" as Character</div><div><br></div><div>and this is caught as an error by the compiler:</div><div><br></div><div> let c: Character = "ax"</div><div><br></div><div>but this slips through and crashes at runtime?</div><div><br></div><div> let c = Character("ax")</div><div><br></div><div>I wonder what improvements could be made in the compiler to have that last one do something more appropriate than just call Character.init(String), which causes the runtime error.</div></div></div>
</blockquote><br><div>This reminds me of the "URL literal" thread. I believe the two ideas were essentially to add regex support to the compiler, add support for compiler "validation" of literals through compile-time functions, or both.</div><div><br></div><div>IIRC, it was decided that both ideas were at least out of scope for phase 1 (I don't recall if this specific issue was brought up as a potential use case, though... unlike `Character`, `URL` isn't part of the stdlib).</div><div><br></div><div>- Dave Sweeris</div></body></html>