<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 1:44 PM Adam Nemecek <<a href="mailto:adamnemecek@gmail.com">adamnemecek@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">> <span style="font-size:12.8px" class="gmail_msg"> T() as a placeholder is just as valid/invalid as any other value in T's space.</span><div class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></span></div></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="gmail_msg">Correct but you how do you get any other value?</span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The mere fact that a value happens to be *easier* to access than others of that type does not mean that it should be the *default* value for that type, or that the type should have *any* default value.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div></div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"></div></div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg">On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Tony Allevato via swift-evolution <span dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>></span> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"></div></div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 1:19 PM David Sweeris <<a href="mailto:davesweeris@mac.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">davesweeris@mac.com</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><br class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"></div><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">On Dec 26, 2016, at 12:10, Tony Allevato <<a href="mailto:tony.allevato@gmail.com" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg" target="_blank">tony.allevato@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><br class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"></div><blockquote type="cite" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 11:57 AM David Sweeris via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="gmail_msg"><div dir="auto" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><br class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"></div><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">On Dec 26, 2016, at 11:35, Tony Allevato <<a href="mailto:allevato@google.com" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg" target="_blank">allevato@google.com</a>> wrote:<br class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><br class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"></div><blockquote type="cite" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">Mathematically, identities are associated with (type, operation) pairs, not types alone.<br class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><br class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">This conversation has put me in the column of "numeric types shouldn't have default initializers at all", personally.
</div></blockquote><br class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"></div></span><div dir="auto" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">I'd agree, except sometimes you need a T, <i class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">any</i> T, for when you want to create a "pre-sized" array for stuffing results into by index:</div><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">for i in ... {</div><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"> a[i] = ...</div><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">}</div><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">Simply saying "var a =[T](); a.reserveCapacity()" doesn't cut it because it'll still crash if you try to store anything in a[i] without somehow putting at least i+1 elements in the array first.</div></div></blockquote><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><br class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"></div><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">Array already has init(repeating:count:) that puts the responsibility of choosing the default value at the call site. If someone were writing a generic algorithm around this, then why not just propagate that responsibility out to its call site as well? That way, the algorithm isn't making any assumptions about what the "default" value is or even if one exists, and it doesn't impose additional requirements on the element type. For example, the user could get the default from a static factory method, an instance method on another object, or something else entirely.</div></div></div>
</blockquote><br class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">Yeah, that's what I would use… The "filled out" example would be:</div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(187,44,162);margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">extension</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:#000000" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:#703daa" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">Array</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:#000000" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"> {</span></div></div></div></div><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="font-family:Menlo;margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"> </span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">public</span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"> </span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">func</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"> pmap<T: </span><span style="color:rgb(79,129,135);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">DefaultInitable</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">> (transform: (</span><span style="color:rgb(112,61,170);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">Element</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">) -> </span><span style="color:rgb(79,129,135);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">T</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">) -> [</span><span style="color:rgb(79,129,135);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">T</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">] {</span></div></div></div></div><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="font-family:Menlo;margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"> </span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">var</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"> result = </span><span style="color:rgb(112,61,170);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">Array</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><</span><span style="color:rgb(79,129,135);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">T</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">>(repeating:</span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"> </span><span style="color:rgb(79,129,135);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">T</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">(), count: </span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">self</span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">.</span><span style="color:rgb(112,61,170);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">count</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">)</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"> </span><span style="color:rgb(0,132,0);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">//Pick a T... any T...</span></div></div></div></div><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="font-family:Menlo;margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"> </span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">for</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"> i </span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">in</span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"> </span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">self</span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">.</span><span style="color:rgb(112,61,170);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">indices</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"> {</span></div></div></div></div><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="font-family:Menlo;margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"> result[i] =<font color="#bb2ca2" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"> </font></span><span style="color:rgb(49,89,93);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">whateverTheConcurrentExectutionSyntaxIs</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">(</span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">self</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">[i</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">], </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">transform</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">)</span></div></div></div></div><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="font-family:Menlo;margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><font color="#bb2ca2" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"> </font>}</span></div></div></div></div><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="font-family:Menlo;margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"> </span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">return</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"> result</span></div></div></div></div><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="font-family:Menlo;margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"> }</span></div></div></div></div><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="font-family:Menlo;margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">}</span></div></div></div></div><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="font-family:Menlo;margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">var</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"> thisCouldTakeAWhile = </span><span style="color:rgb(112,61,170);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">Array</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">((</span><span style="color:rgb(39,42,216);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">0</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">...</span><span style="color:rgb(39,42,216);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">10000</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">)).</span><span style="color:rgb(49,89,93);font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">pmap</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"> {</span></div></div></div></div><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(49,89,93);margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:#000000" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">someReallySlowFunction</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:#000000" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">($0)</span></div></div></div></div><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="font-family:Menlo;margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">}</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">At least I <i class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">think</i> that’d work... I haven’t tried it yet... Anyway, without some way (<i class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">any</i> way) of getting an instance of T to fill in the `result` array, it becomes much trickier to keep track of all the concurrently-calculated transformed values. In this case, the semantics of `T()` are fairly irrelevant because the semantics of the <i class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">overall statement</i> is just to work around</span> a language limitation (Swift not having separate allocation and initialization phases), which doesn’t have anything to do with the semantics of the initial value that got passed as the `repeating` argument.</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">This looks like it's abusing T() to stand in for nil, though. Before the result[i] assignment executes, result[i] shouldn't conceptually have a value—you're putting a default in there because the implementation requires it. T() as a placeholder is just as valid/invalid as any other value in T's space.</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">It's a square-peg-in-a-round-hole problem—design-wise, an array of optionals would be a better fit, but you rightly don't want to return that from the function, and you don't want to bear the cost of converting the array of optionals to an array of non-optionals after the computation is complete. That makes complete sense, but perhaps *that* is the problem that should be addressed, instead of trying to use T() to avoid it? Or alternatively, a parallel map operation should return an array of futures (or a collection type that itself is a future).</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"><br class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg"></div><div class="m_-7126695399839710142m_329265698061725855gmail_msg gmail_msg">- Dave Sweeris</div></div></blockquote></div></div>
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