<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">In my opinion, real-time chat does not have any advantages for swift-evolution discussions. <a href="https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-evolution/Week-of-Mon-20160725/025692.html" class="">I am a strong supporter of moving to Discourse, though.</a><br class=""><div class="">
<br class="">– Adrian
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Wiadomość napisana przez Goffredo Marocchi via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> w dniu 31.10.2016, o godz. 10:10:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">To be fair, alongside JIRA, I think the official Swift repository might want to use HipChat to extend and connect the two and developers inside and outside the company. Sure it is a cost, but I think it would make communication and progress happen much faster.<br class=""><br class="">Sent from my iPhone</div><div class=""><br class="">On 31 Oct 2016, at 08:32, Guillaume DIDIER via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class="">Hello World,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-1 on slack.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">From experience, unless someone (apple) agrees to pay for it, slack will get pretty useless very quickly due to the 10,000 message limit.</div><div class="">Also, the invite only behavior of slack would put a rather annoying entry barrier.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If I were to suggest a technology to use for chat, I would suggest using Matrix (<a href="http://matrix.org/" class="">http://matrix.org</a>), which could be easily bridged to an IRC channel (for the old bearded folks), is quite configurable and only limited by the server physical capacity.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; margin: 0px; line-height: normal;"><font face="Georgia" size="2" color="#073763" class=""><b class=""><span class="" style="-webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(7, 55, 99); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;">Guillaume</span><span class="" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;"> DIDIER</span></b></font></div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; color: rgb(7, 55, 99); -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(7, 55, 99); font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal;" class=""><div class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class="" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; color: rgb(7, 55, 99); margin: 0px; line-height: normal;"><div class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; margin: 0px; line-height: normal;"><span class="" style="color: rgb(7, 55, 99); font-family: 'Century Gothic'; font-size: 13px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;">—</span></div></div></div></div></div><span style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal;" class=""><div class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; color: rgb(7, 55, 99); margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Lucida Sans'; min-height: 15px;"><b class="" style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'; font-size: 11px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;">ÉCOLE POLYTECHNIQUE</b><i class=""></i></div><div class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; color: rgb(7, 55, 99); margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Century Gothic';">91128 PALAISEAU CEDEX<br class=""><span class="" style="color: rgb(30, 73, 125); -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(30, 73, 125);">M.</span> <span class="" style="color: rgb(30, 73, 125); -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(30, 73, 125);">+33 (</span>0<span class="" style="color: rgb(30, 73, 125); -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(30, 73, 125);">)7</span> 70 43 18 40<br class=""><a href="mailto:guillaume.didier@polytechnique.edu?subject=" class=""><span class="" style="line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(71, 135, 255);">guillaume.didier@polytechnique.edu</span></a></div><div class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; color: rgb(71, 135, 255); margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Century Gothic'; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(71, 135, 255);"><span class="" style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://www.polytechnique.edu/" class="">www.polytechnique.edu</a></span></div><div class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; color: rgb(7, 55, 99); font-size: 13px; margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Century Gothic';">—</div></span></span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Le 30 oct. 2016 à 20:26, Adrian Zubarev via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class="">Hello dear Swift community,</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class="">I’d like to pitch the idea of introducing an official Slack team?</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class="">Never heard of Slack before: <a href="https://slack.com/" class="">https://slack.com</a> </div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class="">I know we might have a forum in the future + we already have swift-users, but there are might be other talks you have on your mind around Swift. For example you could share some ideas, searching for help for your project, or just chat with your favorites language community.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class="">That will keep the evolution process nice and clean. :)</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class="">What do you think?</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; 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