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.error { color:#AA0000; }</style></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class="bloop_markdown"><p>It’s not that I want to move the evolution process into a real-time chat. I’d be totally fine if we’d get a corner on the Discourse forum to talk about <strong>anything</strong> somehow related to swift. I imagine Slack to be a corner where the community can talk about anything related to swift without the restriction the mailing list has or the forum might have. ;)</p>
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In my opinion, real-time chat does not have any advantages for
swift-evolution discussions. <a href="https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-evolution/Week-of-Mon-20160725/025692.html" class="">I am a strong supporter of moving to Discourse,
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<div class="">Wiadomość napisana przez Goffredo Marocchi via
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Swift repository might want to use HipChat to extend and connect
the two and developers inside and outside the company. Sure it is a
cost, but I think it would make communication and progress happen
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On 31 Oct 2016, at 08:32, Guillaume DIDIER via swift-evolution
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<div class="">From experience, unless someone (apple) agrees to pay
for it, slack will get pretty useless very quickly due to the
10,000 message limit.</div>
<div class="">Also, the invite only behavior of slack would put a
rather annoying entry barrier.</div>
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<div class="">If I were to suggest a technology to use for chat, I
would suggest using Matrix (<a href="http://matrix.org/" class="">http://matrix.org</a>), which could be easily bridged to an IRC
channel (for the old bearded folks), is quite configurable and only
limited by the server physical capacity.</div>
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swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> a écrit :</div>
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Slack team?</div>
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<div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class="">I know we might have a forum in the future + we already
have swift-users, but there are might be other talks you have on
your mind around Swift. For example you could share some ideas,
searching for help for your project, or just chat with your
favorites language community.</div>
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