Well, "guard x != nil" does not unwrap x. An additive proposal must make clear the difference between testing if an optional is nil and unwrapping it.<br><br>Meanwhile, "guard foo" tests if foo evaluates to true. An additive proposal cannot break this syntax.<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 14:11 Charlie Monroe <<a href="mailto:charlie@charliemonroe.net">charlie@charliemonroe.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">To me, it makes more sense to use</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">guard nonnil x else ...</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">since guard is guarding a condition is true - or am I wrong? Generally, it would tell the compiler that</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">guard x != nil else ...</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">which to me reads like guard nonnil x...</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">Just a side-note... </div></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><blockquote type="cite" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">On Oct 31, 2016, at 8:05 PM, Xiaodi Wu via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-4179006634048633020Apple-interchange-newline gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">The proposal is to create a new shorthand "guard unwrap x" for "guard let x = x". The "guard" statement serves purposes other than unwrapping variables and cannot be removed.<br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 14:03 Joshua Alvarado <<a href="mailto:alvaradojoshua0@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">alvaradojoshua0@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">Without going back through the history, is the proposal to keep replace guard or still keep guard keyword and create a new unwrap? If unwrap is added the guard keyword should just be removed. </div></div><div dir="auto" class="gmail_msg"><div id="m_-4179006634048633020m_-1340813727907140397AppleMailSignature" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg">Alvarado, Joshua</div></div><div dir="auto" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg">On Oct 31, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Xiaodi Wu via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><blockquote type="cite" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">Because "guard" already means something...<br class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 13:45 Kenny Leung via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">It seems to me that you would end up typing “guard unwrap” 99% of the time, so why not just let “guard” imply “guard unwrap” 100% of the time?<br class="gmail_msg">
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> On Oct 31, 2016, at 11:34 AM, Erica Sadun <<a href="mailto:erica@ericasadun.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">erica@ericasadun.com</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
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> Because there's an action taking place in addition to guarding<br class="gmail_msg">
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>> On Oct 31, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Kenny Leung via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
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>> Why have the “unwrap” keyword at all? Isn’t “guard” the keyword?<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> On Oct 28, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Erica Sadun via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>>> On Oct 26, 2016, at 11:39 AM, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>>>> On Oct 26, 2016, at 10:23 AM, Joshua Alvarado <<a href="mailto:alvaradojoshua0@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">alvaradojoshua0@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>>>> In your example the keyword only makes sense if you are shadowing the optional variable. How would unwrap work with a different name?<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>>> It wouldn’t: “unwrap” would never include an equal sign. If you want to do that, use a standard "if let”.<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> So I can stop thinking about this. Gist is here: <a href="https://gist.github.com/erica/db9ce92b3d23cb20799460f603c0ae7c" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/erica/db9ce92b3d23cb20799460f603c0ae7c</a><br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> Introducing unwrap<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> • Proposal: TBD<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> • Author: Erica Sadun, Chris Lattner, David Goodine<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> • Status: TBD<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> • Review manager: TBD<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> Introduction<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> This proposal introduces unwrap, simplifying common shadowing and allowing a unified syntax for one-item associated values such as Result types.<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> Swift-evolution thread: guard let x = x<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> Motivation<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> Swift lacks a unified, safe way to bind an optional or single-value enumeration to a shadowed varaiable that is guaranteed to be the same name. Introducing unwrap ensures the conditionally bound item does not accidentally shadow any other item.<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> guard let foobar = foobar else { …<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> guard unwrap foobar else { … }<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> Using unwrap eliminates repetition ("foobar = foobar" fails DRY principles) and retains clarity. The keyword is common, simple to understand, and easy to search for if Swift users are unfamiliar with it.<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> This syntax simplifies one-item associated value enumerations by offering a common syntax. Compare:<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> enum Result<T> { case success(T), error(Error<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> guard case let .success(value) = result else { ...<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> guard unwrap result else { ... }<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> In the latter case result is bound to the wrapped value. Again, it is simpler and clearer, even with non-Optional types.<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> Detailed Design<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> unwrap can be used with any one-value enumeration. The unwrapped value is bound to the same symbol as the associated type.<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> enum TypeName<T, U> { case anycase(T), anothercase(U) }<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> // First and second are type `TypeName`<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> guard unwrap first else { ... }<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> // first is now shadowed as type T<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> guard unwrap second else { ... }<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> // second is now shadowed as type U<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> Impact on Existing Code<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> This change is additive and has no impact on existing code other than intentional refactoring.<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> Timeline<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> This proposal is additive and not suited for consideration until Swift 4 phase 2<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> Alternatives Considered<br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> • Using a bind keyword. Past discussions were held in the first week of February 2016.<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> • Fixing pattern matching grammar<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> • Not using this approach<br class="gmail_msg">
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