<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 28, 2016, at 7:22 PM, Xiaodi Wu <<a href="mailto:xiaodi.wu@gmail.com" class="">xiaodi.wu@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">A person should not need to buy a special keyboard or device, or know how to work the option/alt key, in order to write the less-than-or-equal-to operator.</span></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">But my main point is that the symbols painted on the physical keyboard are no longer our only (or even best) method of discovery. If ≤ comes up in the auto-complete when you write < or <=, then it solves the discovery issue. We can even use this to teach the option/alt key method (this is the what the Mac does to teach command keys associated with menu items).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Your point about the search-ability of symbols is an important one, but that can also be solved with appropriate UI for discovery of the associated (searchable) keywords.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Swift is a language being designed for the next 20-30 years, we shouldn’t be limiting ourselves based on technology that is already being replaced (as you mentioned many of the devices people use everyday already have a soft keyboard… and Ive said the TouchBar was just the beginning of a new direction). We need to aim for where the puck is going to be…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class="">Jon</div></body></html>