<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Oct 17, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Jonathan Hull via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></blockquote><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">On Oct 17, 2016, at 12:37 AM, Rien <<a href="mailto:Rien@Balancingrock.nl" class="">Rien@Balancingrock.nl</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">-1.<br class=""><br class="">If an API designer wants to allow access to a “hidden’ member, he should be in control of that access.<br class=""></blockquote><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">This seems to be one of the biggest internal arguments within the swift community. Who is in control of the use of frameworks? The author or the user?</span></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">To me, it seems that if the author has control already. If s/he needs to hide symbols from outside the framework, the “internal” keyword already exists for that.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Charles</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></body></html>