<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Sep 28, 2016, at 9:57 PM, Erica Sadun via swift-evolution &lt;<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=""></blockquote><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">D'erp. I missed that. And that's an unambiguous answer.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">So let me move on to part B of the pitch: I think CharacterSets are broken.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Xiaodi Wu: "isn't the problem you're presenting really an argument that the type should be fleshed out to handle characters (grapheme clusters) containing more than one Unicode scalar?"</blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">It seems that it already does handle such characters:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">(done in Objective-C so we can log the length of the range as a count of UTF-16 code units)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(209, 47, 27);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #78492a" class="">#import </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&lt;Foundation/Foundation.h&gt;</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #ba2da2" class="">int</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> main(</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #ba2da2" class="">int</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> argc, </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #ba2da2" class="">char</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> *argv[]) {</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(186, 45, 162);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class="">&nbsp; &nbsp; </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">@autoreleasepool</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class=""> {</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(62, 30, 129);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class="">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #703daa" class="">NSCharacterSet</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class=""> *bikeSet = [</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #703daa" class="">NSCharacterSet</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">characterSetWithCharactersInString</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class="">:</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #d12f1b" class="">@"</span><span style="line-height: normal; font-family: 'Apple Color Emoji'; font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(209, 47, 27);" class="">🚲</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #d12f1b" class="">"</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class="">];</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #703daa" class="">NSString</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> *str = </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #d12f1b" class="">@"foo</span><span style="line-height: normal; font-family: 'Apple Color Emoji'; font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(209, 47, 27);" class="">🚲</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #d12f1b" class="">bar"</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">;</span></div><p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></p><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #703daa" class="">NSRange</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> range = [str </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #3e1e81" class="">rangeOfCharacterFromSet</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">:bikeSet];</span></div><p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></p><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(209, 47, 27);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class="">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #3e1e81" class="">NSLog</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class="">(</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">@"location: %lu length: %lu"</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class="">, range.</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #703daa" class="">location</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class="">, range.</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #703daa" class="">length</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class="">);</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&nbsp; &nbsp; }</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">}</span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class="">- - - - - - -</div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""><b class="">2016-09-28 22:20:00.622471 test[15577:2433912] location: 3 length: 2</b></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""><b class="">Program ended with exit code: 0</b></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""><b class=""><br class=""></b></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;" class="">- - - - - - -</span></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;" class=""><br class=""></span></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;" class="">As we can see, the character from the set is recognized as consisting of two code units. There are a few bugs in the system, though. See the cocoa-dev thread&nbsp;“Where is my bicycle?” from about a year ago:&nbsp;</span><a href="http://prod.lists.apple.com/archives/cocoa-dev/2015/Apr/msg00074.html" class="">http://prod.lists.apple.com/archives/cocoa-dev/2015/Apr/msg00074.html</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class="">Charles</div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></body></html>