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<body><div>AFAIK this issue has never been discussed with sequence(first:next:) before. It certainly wasn't brought up during review.<br></div>
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<div>As for my opinion, I'm really not sure. I was going to point out that right now sequence(first:next:) guarantees that the first element of the resulting sequence is the value provided as "first", but it occurs to me that if you treat the nil result from next() as an element, then this still holds true. So I guess my biggest worry is this change will make it harder to use sequence(first:next:) to produce sequences of optional values. So I guess I'm ambivalent, and would prefer to defer to the wisdom of the Swift core team on this matter.<br></div>
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<div>That said, didn't the deadline for source-breaking changes already come and go?</div>
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<div>On Fri, Aug 19, 2016, at 10:37 AM, Max Moiseev wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote type="cite"><div>+ Erica, Kevin, as the authors of the original proposal.<br></div>
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<div>Do you remember the problem of non-emptiness being discussed before? And if not, what’s your opinion on the proposed change?<br></div>
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<div>Thanks,<br></div>
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<div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Aug 19, 2016, at 7:53 AM, Tim Vermeulen <<a href="mailto:tvermeulen@me.com">tvermeulen@me.com</a>> wrote:<br></div>
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<div><div style="word-wrap:break-word;-webkit-line-break:after-white-space;"><div>Hi Max, thanks for having a look.<br></div>
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<div>A big part of why I’m not really happy with the current implementation is that the function always produces a nonempty sequence, though the compiler doesn’t know it. `sequence(first: first, next: next).last` returns an optional, even though it can’t possibly be nil. The same goes for something like `sequence(first: 5, next: { $0 * 3 }).first(where: { $0 > 1000 })`, because the sequence is infinite, which means `first(while:)` will either keep running forever, or return a non-optional.<br></div>
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<div>Ideally, we’d have three types of sequences, with three corresponding `sequence(first:next:)` functions:<br></div>
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<div><div><span class="font" style="font-family:Menlo">func sequence<T>(first: T?, next: (T) -> T?)</span><span class="font" style="font-family:Menlo"> — </span>returns any sequence<br></div>
<div><span class="font" style="font-family:Menlo">func sequence<T>(first: T, next: (T) -> T?)</span><span class="font" style="font-family:Menlo"> — </span>returns a nonempty sequence<br></div>
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<div><span class="font" style="font-family:Menlo">func sequence<T>(first: T, next: (T) -> T) </span><span class="font" style="font-family:Menlo"> — </span>returns an infinite sequence<br></div>
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<div>Default implementations for methods on sequences would either return optionals or non-optionals depending on their emptiness/finiteness. We just have the first kind of sequence right now, so in that regard it would make sense to also give `sequence(first:next)` the corresponding signature. Later, when the language / standard library supports the other two kinds of sequences (if that ever happens), the other versions could be added.<br></div>
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<div>Another reason that makes me think that the version that accepts an optional `first` argument is more natural, is the fact that the function body doesn’t need to be changed at all. It supports optional seeds by design; only the signature prevents it.<br></div>
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<div>I know these arguments might not be very convincing, but I feel like Swift misses an opportunity if it unnecessarily constrains the `first` parameter to be non-optional. The `.lazy.flatMap({ $0 })` alternative that you pointed out does work, but it makes everything very unreadable: not just the `.lazy.flatMap({ $0 })` part, but also the body of the `next` parameter because you’re now dealing with optionals (i.e. you have to `flatMap` over the closure argument). The best solution I’ve come up with is to copy the `sequence(first:next)` implementation from the source code and change the signature. :-/<br></div>
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<div>`sequence(state:next:)` isn’t very appropriate for this task either, because naive usage with an optional seed has the downside of being unnecessarily eager just like a naive `sequence(first:next)` implementation (as described in a comment in the source code).<br></div>
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<div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 19 Aug 2016, at 00:18, Max Moiseev <<a href="mailto:moiseev@apple.com">moiseev@apple.com</a>> wrote:<br></div>
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<div><div style="word-wrap:break-word;-webkit-line-break:after-white-space;"><div>Hi Tim,<br></div>
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<div>Thanks for bringing this up.<br></div>
<div>Here are my thoughts on the change you’re proposing.<br></div>
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<div><span class="font" style="font-family:Menlo"><span class="size" style="font-size:12px">func sequence<T>(first: T, next: (T) -> T?) -> UnfoldFirstSequence<T></span></span><br></div>
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<div>To me the type of the function as it is tells a clear story of what’s going to happen: take the `first`, make it a head of the resulting sequence, and then try to produce the tail by a series of applications of `next`. The only thing that controls when the sequence generation terminates is the result of `next`.<br></div>
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<div>If we change the type of `first` to an Optional<T>, it would make the termination condition non-trivial. After all, the only thing it would do is try to unwrap the `first`, before doing what it needs to, but we already have a `map` for that. One should be able to simply do the `first.map { sequence(first: $0, next: next) } ?? []` but that won’t work with the types very well, unfortunately.<br></div>
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<div>As an alternative, `let first: Int? = ...; sequence(first: first, next: next).flatMap({$0})` (or even `.lazy.flatMap({$0})`) will do the right thing without making an API more complex.<br></div>
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<div>I see the point of `sequence(first:next:)` to be precisely the "generate the non-empty sequence using a seed and a simple producer", for anything more than that, there is `sequence(state:next:)`.<br></div>
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<div>What do you think?<br></div>
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<div>Max<br></div>
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<div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Aug 14, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Tim Vermeulen via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br></div>
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<div><div><div>sequence(first:next:) takes a non-optional first argument. Is there a reason for that? sequence(state:next:) allows empty sequences, and I don’t see why sequence(first:next:) shouldn’t. The fix would be to simply add the `?` in the function signature; no other changes are required to make it work.<br></div>
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<div>I considered just filing a bug report, but since this is a change of the public API...<br></div>
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