<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Apple's developer forums need to rewrite in Swift.</span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:42 AM, Shawn Erickson via swift-evolution <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I concur on the general weakness of Apple's developer forums as they currently exist.</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:23 AM Jon Shier via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Just wanted to point out that Apple’s forum software is pretty terrible, even after two (apparent) rewrites. It’s buggy, navigates differently from other forum software, doesn’t render code inline very well, and it doesn’t offer the integrations that Discourse does.</div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Jon</div></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Aug 3, 2016, at 7:52 PM, Charles Srstka via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><blockquote type="cite">On Aug 3, 2016, at 4:11 PM, David Owens II via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote><div><blockquote type="cite"><br><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">But does it already surpass the limits?</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>• There is a bandwidth limit of 100k monthly page views, equivalent to our Standard hosting plan.<br><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>• If you exceed our bandwidth limit – which is very unlikely, unless your project is enormous – you have two options:<br><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>• We’ll help you move to self-hosting, either on your own server or any Docker compatible cloud (a $20/month Digital Ocean droplet should suffice).<br><div><div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>• Upgrade to our Business hosting plan at 50% off.</div></div></div></blockquote><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div></div></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s close if not passed 100k monthly views already. </div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">The big unknown is also around the mailing list support. Is it super robust and work as well for communicating as the mailing currently does? I don’t know. I’ve not been involved with large projects on discourse.</div></div></blockquote></div><br><div>Apple has a lot of money; I doubt being unable to go with the free option would be a big dealbreaker.</div><div><br></div><div>It should probably be mentioned, though, that Apple already has a developer forum set up, and a server to run it on, and everything. Is there any reason they couldn’t just use that?</div><div><br></div><div>Charles</div><div><br></div></div>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>swift-evolution mailing list<br><a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution" target="_blank">https://lists.swift.org/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/swift-<wbr>evolution</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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