<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><div style="direction: inherit;">So no final Swift 3.0 for Xcode 8 / iOS launch (late 2016 speaks like late November or December 2016 while iOS 10 feels like September timeframe).</div><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 31 Jul 2016, at 05:46, Douglas Gregor via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 30, 2016, at 9:19 PM, Robert Hedin via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">I thought Chris was pretty clear as well; but what was said was:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">"<span style="font-size: 13px;" class="">Over the next year, the core team expects to ship two major releases of Swift: </span><b style="font-size: 13px;" class="">Swift 3.x in Spring 2017</b><span style="font-size: 13px;" class=""> and </span><b style="font-size: 13px;" class="">Swift 4 in Fall 2017</b><span style="font-size: 13px;" class="">.</span>" </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I'm know I'm being pedantic, but since 3.0 hasn't been released yet, it sounds like it should be one of the "two major releases". While I'd love to have Swift 3 for this year, I'm fine if it's slipping. Honestly, I'm not a fan of tying what are huge language changes to an arbitrary annual ship schedule anyway.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">All that said, I'm just looking for clarity one way or the other so that I can plan our app migration strategy over the near term.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Swift 3.0 will still ship in “late 2016”. That has not changed.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Chris was referring to a point release in Spring 2017. We don’t know if it will be Swift 3.1, or 3.2, or whatever.</div><div><br class=""></div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>- Doug</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">rob.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Brandon Knope<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:bknope@me.com" target="_blank" class="">bknope@me.com</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="auto" class=""><div class=""></div><div class="">There is no way Swift 3 doesn't ship with iOS 10 in September. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think he meant point releases after 3.0 (3.*) will be in 2017 (3 vs 3.* vs 4 was trying to convey this I believe). </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Swift 3 has to ship with iOS 10 because lots of us are building and updating to iOS 10 and using swift 3. Apple would have a lot of angry developers come iOS 10 if they couldn't submit their apps...</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But of course, Chris can clarify :)</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Brandon </div></font></span><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">On Jul 30, 2016, at 9:38 PM, Robert Hedin via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">My team has been closely following things here and has been looking forward with great anticipation to using Swift 3 in our production systems.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">To that end, I'd like to confirm (or not) that "Swift 3.0" is no longer expected to ship in "late 2016" as currently reflected on the Swift Evolution GitHub repo but will rather ship in "Spring 2017". </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Over the past 24 hours I've got different members of my team coming up with different reads of what, exactly, "3.x" means in context.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">rob.<br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" class=""><div class=""><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; 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