<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">To be clear, I think that you should be allowed to have a symbol that has the same name as the module. I was talking about that alternative because other people on this thread preferred it, but this does not reflect my opinion at all. As Károly writes, one very big reason to dislike it is that there is no possible automated migration for users of frameworks that rely on this pattern.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Renaming imports is one additive way to solve the problem. I was asking Paulo how his proposal is going, though, because my intuition is that it's headed towards something like `object.Module::extensionMethod()` to disambiguate extension methods, and we could reuse whatever syntax it has for global module symbols too.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Since I suggested _.Module.Class, it was brought to my attention (on this thread) that : is not an operator symbol, so there is no risk of ambiguity in Module::Class (which I think is better than _.Module.Class).</div><div class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Le 16 juil. 2016 à 19:06:14, Robert Widmann <<a href="mailto:devteam.codafi@gmail.com" class="">devteam.codafi@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class=""><span class=""></span></div><div class=""><div class="">I've been wanting to do this kind of overhaul for the last 6 months. My original spitball thread is here <a href="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.swift.evolution/1394" class="">http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.swift.evolution/1394</a> and I have a draft of a proposal that I hope to put out soon that I can let you view (or even coauthor if you desire) if anybody wishes to ping me off-list.<br class=""><br class="">~Robert Widmann</div><div class=""><br class="">2016/07/16 15:19、Félix Cloutier via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> のメッセージ:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class="">There is about 2 weeks left for source-breaking proposals, and this is going to be one of them. How is progress going? Do you think that you'll have enough time to push it out of the door?<br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Le 20 juin 2016 à 17:33:03, Paulo Faria <<a href="mailto:paulo@zewo.io" class="">paulo@zewo.io</a>> a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Yeah! I’m working on a formal proposal that would solve the same problem. Jordan, the problem he described is exactly like the one you explained to me, haha. Now I’m a bit confused about how the proposal should be called. Have any suggestions? What title could fit the two use cases we mentioned. By the way, can you see any other use case that would be solved with the same solution?<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 20, 2016, at 9:25 PM, Jordan Rose <<a href="mailto:jordan_rose@apple.com" class="">jordan_rose@apple.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">I've been encouraging Paulo Faria to mention this case in his push for a way to disambiguate extension methods, with the thought being we could then use the same syntax to differentiate top-level names as well.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I'd also be happy with the "import as" syntax. The underscore syntax seems a little opaque, but I suppose it wouldn't come up very often.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Jordan</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 17, 2016, at 19:52, Félix Cloutier via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hello all,<div class=""><br class=""></div><span class="">I recently </span><a href="http://stackoverflow.com/q/37892621/251153" class="">ran into a bug</a><span class=""> that leaves me unable to fully-qualify the name of a type. If you import a module named Foo that also contains a type named Foo, attempts to fully-qualify any name in the Foo module will instead attempt to find something inside the Foo type. This bug has </span><a href="https://bugs.swift.org/browse/SR-898" class="">already been reported</a><span class="">.<br class=""></span><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Here's an example with Károly Lőrentey's BTree module (which also contains a BTree type) that I encountered while trying to use the OrderedSet type:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><pre class="default prettyprinted prettyprint" style="margin-top: 0px; padding: 5px; border: 0px; font-size: 13px; width: auto; max-height: 600px; overflow: auto; font-family: Consolas, Menlo, Monaco, 'Lucida Console', 'Liberation Mono', 'DejaVu Sans Mono', 'Bitstream Vera Sans Mono', 'Courier New', monospace, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(239, 240, 241); color: rgb(57, 51, 24); word-wrap: normal;"><code style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-family: Consolas, Menlo, Monaco, 'Lucida Console', 'Liberation Mono', 'DejaVu Sans Mono', 'Bitstream Vera Sans Mono', 'Courier New', monospace, sans-serif; white-space: inherit;" class=""><span class="kwd" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(16, 16, 148);">let</span><span class="pln" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(48, 51, 54);"> </span><span class="kwd" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(16, 16, 148);">set</span><span class="pln" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(48, 51, 54);"> </span><span class="pun" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(48, 51, 54);">=</span><span class="pln" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(48, 51, 54);"> </span><span class="typ" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(43, 145, 175);">OrderedSet</span><span class="pun" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(48, 51, 54);"><</span><span class="typ" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(43, 145, 175);">Int</span><span class="pun" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(48, 51, 54);">>()</span><span class="pln" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(48, 51, 54);">
</span><span class="com" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(133, 140, 147);">// error: 'OrderedSet' is ambiguous for type lookup in this context</span><span class="pln" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(48, 51, 54);">
</span><span class="com" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(133, 140, 147);">// Found this candidate: Foundation.OrderedSet:3:14</span><span class="pln" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(48, 51, 54);">
</span><span class="com" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(133, 140, 147);">// Found this candidate: BTree.OrderedSet:12:15</span></code></pre><div class="">To solve this, you would normally write BTree.OrderedSet, but now Swift thinks that BTree is the BTree type, not the BTree module:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><pre class="default prettyprinted prettyprint" style="margin-top: 0px; padding: 5px; border: 0px; font-size: 13px; width: auto; max-height: 600px; overflow: auto; font-family: Consolas, Menlo, Monaco, 'Lucida Console', 'Liberation Mono', 'DejaVu Sans Mono', 'Bitstream Vera Sans Mono', 'Courier New', monospace, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(239, 240, 241); color: rgb(57, 51, 24); word-wrap: normal;"><code style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-family: Consolas, Menlo, Monaco, 'Lucida Console', 'Liberation Mono', 'DejaVu Sans Mono', 'Bitstream Vera Sans Mono', 'Courier New', monospace, sans-serif; white-space: inherit;" class=""><span class="kwd" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(16, 16, 148);">let</span><span class="pln" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(48, 51, 54);"> </span><span class="kwd" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(16, 16, 148);">set</span><span class="pln" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(48, 51, 54);"> </span><span class="pun" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(48, 51, 54);">=</span><span class="pln" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(48, 51, 54);"> </span><span class="typ" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(43, 145, 175);">BTree</span><span class="pun" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(48, 51, 54);">.</span><span class="typ" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(43, 145, 175);">OrderedSet</span><span class="pun" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(48, 51, 54);"><</span><span class="typ" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(43, 145, 175);">Int</span><span class="pun" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(48, 51, 54);">>()</span><span class="pln" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(48, 51, 54);">
</span><span class="com" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; color: rgb(133, 140, 147);">// error: reference to generic type 'BTree' requires arguments in <...></span></code></pre><div class="">Any fix will require a change to the language, and as Jordan Rose stated on the bug, it "needs design", so I would like to bring up the issue and discuss possible solutions.</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I can see several options (leaving "do nothing" aside, since I believe that this needs to be resolved):</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><ul class="MailOutline"><li class="">Prevent modules from containing a type with the same name</li><li class="">Allow modules to be imported under different names (`import BTree as BTreeModule`, `import BTreeModule = BTree` or any similar syntax)</li><li class="">Create a new syntax that indicates that you're naming a module, not a type (like `_.BTree.OrderedSet`)</li></ul><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="">Thoughts?</div><div class="">
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