<div style="white-space:pre-wrap">It'd certainly be nice to have more formal reviews, but I would disagree with the rest of your proposal. The Swift Evolution process guidelines explicitly tell authors to be responsive to comments during the review period. This naturally lends itself to back-and-forth conversation, and in the past the conversation has (sometimes) resulted in improvements to proposals. I would hate to see that reduced to formal postings only.<br><br>Naturally, it is important that all participants maintain a professional approach to debate, but let's not pretend controversy doesn't exist in the community when it does. Among other things, it only lends itself to new threads with requests for re-consideration because argument X or Y wasn't brought up during review.<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 12:47 Jose Cheyo Jimenez via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi there,<br>
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I have noticed that on the most controversial reviews there has been a trend of people arguing their specific stance on the proposal beyond the formal response. I am referring to the instances when somebody formally reviews a proposal but keeps responding to other peoples proposals in order to reiterate their position.<br>
I'm all for debate and bike shedding but I don't think a review thread is the right place:<br>
1) it makes it difficult for review managers to gather all the input<br>
2) it distracts from other reviewer's input<br>
3) turns reviews into heated discussions that discourage actual formal reviews.<br>
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I recently saw this in the sealed by default review but I have seen it before.<br>
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Perhaps the review manager can state that every person should only respond once or twice to the public formal review thread?<br>
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Another thing I have noticed is people giving .5 , +0 reviews. I know we are not voting here per se but I fail to see how these reviews help the review manager or the community make a decision for or against the proposal; perhaps this could be addressed in a different thread. I just feel that when somebody gives a 0, .5 review, it encourages people to respond to the reviewer in trying to convince them into a side. My recommendation is that people who are not sure should wait for other people to give concrete input to inform a concrete response.<br>
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Thanks!<br>
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