Sorry, I don't really see how these are related to "process". Can you explain?<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 15:08 Zach Waldowski via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
<div><div style="font-family:Arial">`Process` might be a good place for namespacing these. You'll also note that `print` can take an OutputStream to make this even more idiomatic. Straw man example at <a href="https://gist.github.com/zwaldowski/4ed2fd48da2af3193b0cbd3ec1883c9d" target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/zwaldowski/4ed2fd48da2af3193b0cbd3ec1883c9d</a>.<br></div>
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<div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif,sans-serif">Cheers!</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif,sans-serif"></span><br></div>
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<div>On Mon, Jul 11, 2016, at 12:24 PM, Erica Sadun via swift-evolution wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-family:Arial">Just throwing this here. Unfortunately `Stream` is already taken (and tied to Foundation).<br></div>
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<div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font-size:16px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;line-height:normal"><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162)">public</span><span> </span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162)">struct</span><span> StdStream {</span><br></div>
<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;line-height:normal"><span> </span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162)">public</span><span> </span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162)">struct</span><span> StderrStream: </span><span style="color:rgb(112,61,170)">OutputStream</span><span> {</span><br></div>
<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;line-height:normal"><span> </span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162)">public</span><span> </span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162)">func</span><span> write(</span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162)">_</span><span> string: </span><span style="color:rgb(112,61,170)">String</span><span>) { </span><span style="color:rgb(61,29,129)">fputs</span><span>(string, Darwin.</span><span style="color:rgb(112,61,170)">stderr</span><span>) }</span><br></div>
<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;line-height:normal"><span> }</span><br></div>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;line-height:normal;min-height:19px"><span> </span><br></p><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;line-height:normal"><span> </span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162)">public</span><span> </span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162)">struct</span><span> StdoutStream: </span><span style="color:rgb(112,61,170)">OutputStream</span><span> {</span><br></div>
<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;line-height:normal"><span> </span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162)">public</span><span> </span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162)">func</span><span> write(</span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162)">_</span><span> string: </span><span style="color:rgb(112,61,170)">String</span><span>) { </span><span style="color:rgb(61,29,129)">fputs</span><span>(string, Darwin.</span><span style="color:rgb(112,61,170)">stdout</span><span>) }</span><br></div>
<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;line-height:normal"><span> }</span><br></div>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;line-height:normal;min-height:19px"><span> </span><br></p><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;line-height:normal"><span> </span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162)">public</span><span> </span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162)">static</span><span> </span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162)">var</span><span> err = </span><span style="color:rgb(79,129,135)">StderrStream</span><span>()</span><br></div>
<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;line-height:normal"><span> </span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162)">public</span><span> </span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162)">static</span><span> </span><span style="color:rgb(187,44,162)">var</span><span> out = </span><span style="color:rgb(79,129,135)">StdoutStream</span><span>()</span><br></div>
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<div>So in use, it would look something like <br></div>
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<div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font-size:16px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;line-height:normal;color:rgb(79,129,135)"><span>str</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">.</span><span style="color:rgb(61,29,129)">write</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">(to: &</span><span>StdStream</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">.</span><span>out</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">)</span><br></div>
<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;line-height:normal;color:rgb(79,129,135)"><span>str</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">.</span><span style="color:rgb(61,29,129)">write</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">(to: &</span><span>StdStream</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">.</span><span>err</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">)</span><br></div>
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<div>I also considered DarwinStream (seemed too on the nose), UnixStream, Streamfd, BSDStream, etc. Didn't like any of them.<br></div>
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<div>-- E, have paintbrush will bikeshed<br></div>
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<blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jul 11, 2016, at 12:58 PM, Saagar Jha via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br></div>
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<div><div><div style="font-family:Arial">Thanks, I’ll write it up.<br></div>
<blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-family:Arial">On Jul 11, 2016, at 11:20, Dave Abrahams via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial">on Sun Jul 10 2016, Saagar Jha <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br></div>
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<blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-family:Arial">What is the process for smaller issues like these? I’m guessing that<br></div>
<div style="font-family:Arial">this doesn’t need a proposal; where should it go? On <a href="http://bugs.swift.org" target="_blank">bugs.swift.org</a><br></div>
<div style="font-family:Arial"><<a href="http://bugs.swift.org/" target="_blank">http://bugs.swift.org/</a>>?<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial">If it adds an API, it needs a proposal. Doesn't necessarily have to be<br></div>
<div style="font-family:Arial">a big proposal, and the review period can be short, but we don't add<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial">Thanks,<br></div>
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