<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 9, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Thorsten Seitz via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Am 09.06.2016 um 19:46 schrieb L Mihalkovic via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">On Jun 9, 2016, at 7:04 PM, Jordan Rose <<a href="mailto:jordan_rose@apple.com" class="">jordan_rose@apple.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">On Jun 9, 2016, at 07:35, L. Mihalkovic <<a href="mailto:laurent.mihalkovic@gmail.com" class="">laurent.mihalkovic@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">On Jun 9, 2016, at 3:27 AM, Jordan Rose via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="">Hi, Paulo. Thanks for bringing this up; it’s definitely an interesting problem to solve.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My thoughts are mostly in line with yours, that disambiguation at the call site is the most Swift-like thing to do, at least as a first step. Maybe we can add some way to record general preferences, or maybe just asking people to define a wrapper function to put the disambiguation in one place is fine.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’m not particularly a fan of the “from” syntax or the “@“ syntax, but I don’t have anything better. (And the “not a fan” is entirely a taste thing, plus a general desire not to steal new keywords or operator characters. Neither of these are blockers.) I’ve been playing with silly things like this:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote class="" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><div class="">str.(ModuleA.capitalized)()</div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Seeing all these proposals that people make, it makes me thinks that extensions as they exist are not fully understood... People seem to consider them like the Xtext/Xtend/c# extension METHODS, which means that maybe they should also be added to Swift, and people would not be confused:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">public static func capitalized(self:String)() {} </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Then these would be easily individually imported from module x,y or z with the current syntax, and then "extension String {}" would retain it current scoping behavior</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">No matter what, I think many extensions are just a bad outlook on OOD, but properly understood, they are great.</div></div></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">I’m not sure what you mean. How does changing the declaration site solve the disambiguation problem at the call site? (And how do you think Swift extensions differ from C# extensions?)</div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">sorry, I thought the example was clearer than it actually is (pb with writing thgs in a train)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This is code I wrote a couple weeks ago (parsing some WWDC related things in C#):</div><div class=""><pre class="line-numbers language-csharp" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; margin-top: 0.5em; margin-bottom: 0.5em; background-color: rgb(245, 242, 240); border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.5; overflow: auto; padding: 1em 1em 1em 3.8em; border-top-left-radius: 3px; border-top-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-left-radius: 3px; text-shadow: white 0px 1px; font-family: Consolas, Monaco, 'Andale Mono', 'Ubuntu Mono', monospace; word-break: normal; word-wrap: normal; tab-size: 4; -webkit-hyphens: none; position: relative; counter-reset: linenumber 0;"><code class=" language-csharp" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: none; border-top-left-radius: 3px; border-top-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-left-radius: 3px; background-image: none; text-shadow: white 0px 1px; font-family: Consolas, Monaco, 'Andale Mono', 'Ubuntu Mono', monospace; word-spacing: normal; word-break: normal; word-wrap: normal; line-height: 1.5; tab-size: 4; -webkit-hyphens: none; position: relative;"><span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">namespace</span> HtmlAgilityPackPlus <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">{</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">using</span> HtmlAgilityPack<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">;</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">public</span> <span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">static</span> <span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">class</span> <span class="token class-name" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact;">Extender</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">{</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">public</span> <span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">static</span> HtmlNode <span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">ChildOfType</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span><span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">this</span> HtmlNode node<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">,</span> <span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">string</span> name<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">{</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">var</span> n <span class="token operator" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(166, 127, 89); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.498039);">=</span> node<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">.</span>ChildNodes<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">.</span><span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">Where</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span> x <span class="token operator" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(166, 127, 89); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.498039);">=</span><span class="token operator" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(166, 127, 89); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.498039);">></span> x<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">.</span>Name <span class="token operator" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(166, 127, 89); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.498039);">==</span> name<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">.</span><span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">First</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">;</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">return</span> n<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">;</span>
<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">}</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">public</span> <span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">static</span> HtmlNode <span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">FirstLink</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span><span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">this</span> HtmlNode node<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">{</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">var</span> child <span class="token operator" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(166, 127, 89); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.498039);">=</span> node<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">.</span><span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">ChildOfType</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span><span class="token string" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(102, 153, 0);">"a"</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">;</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">return</span> child<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">;</span>
<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">}</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">public</span> <span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">static</span> HtmlNode <span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">FirstDescendantMatching</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span><span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">this</span> HtmlNode node<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">,</span> Func<span class="token operator" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(166, 127, 89); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.498039);"><</span>HtmlNode<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">,</span> <span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">bool</span><span class="token operator" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(166, 127, 89); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.498039);">></span> predicate<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">{</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">var</span> seq <span class="token operator" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(166, 127, 89); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.498039);">=</span> node<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">.</span><span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">Descendants</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">.</span><span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">Where</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span> x <span class="token operator" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(166, 127, 89); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.498039);">=</span><span class="token operator" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(166, 127, 89); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.498039);">></span> <span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">predicate</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span>x<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">;</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">return</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span>seq<span class="token operator" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(166, 127, 89); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.498039);">?</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">.</span><span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">Count</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span> <span class="token operator" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(166, 127, 89); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.498039);">?</span><span class="token operator" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(166, 127, 89); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.498039);">?</span> <span class="token number" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 0, 85);">0</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span> <span class="token operator" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(166, 127, 89); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.498039);">></span> <span class="token number" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 0, 85);">0</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span> <span class="token operator" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(166, 127, 89); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.498039);">?</span> seq<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">.</span><span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">First</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">:</span> <span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">null</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">;</span>
<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">}</span>
<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">}</span>
<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">}</span></code></pre><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">XText and XTend work the same (I think at some point so did kotlin, but I haven’t checked since the final)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Now this is some Swift code (yes I am not bothering with the details)</div><div class=""><pre class="line-numbers language-swift" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; margin-top: 0.5em; margin-bottom: 0.5em; background-color: rgb(245, 242, 240); border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.5; overflow: auto; padding: 1em 1em 1em 3.8em; border-top-left-radius: 3px; border-top-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-left-radius: 3px; text-shadow: white 0px 1px; font-family: Consolas, Monaco, 'Andale Mono', 'Ubuntu Mono', monospace; word-break: normal; word-wrap: normal; tab-size: 4; -webkit-hyphens: none; position: relative; counter-reset: linenumber 0;"><code class=" language-swift" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: none; border-top-left-radius: 3px; border-top-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-left-radius: 3px; background-image: none; text-shadow: white 0px 1px; font-family: Consolas, Monaco, 'Andale Mono', 'Ubuntu Mono', monospace; word-spacing: normal; word-break: normal; word-wrap: normal; line-height: 1.5; tab-size: 4; -webkit-hyphens: none; position: relative;">module A <span class="token operator" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(166, 127, 89); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.498039);">===</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">extension</span> <span class="token builtin" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(102, 153, 0);">String</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">{</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">func</span> <span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">oneA</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">{</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">}</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">func</span> <span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">twoA</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">{</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">}</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">func</span> <span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">threeA</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">{</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">}</span>
<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">}</span>
module B <span class="token operator" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(166, 127, 89); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.498039);">===</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">extension</span> <span class="token builtin" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(102, 153, 0);">String</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">{</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">func</span> <span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">oneB</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">{</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">}</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">func</span> <span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">twoB</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">{</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">}</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">func</span> <span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">threeB</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">{</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">}</span>
<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">}</span></code></pre><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="">We could say that the Swift extension is a ‘batch’ oriented mechanism: </div><div class=""><ul class=""><li class="">first a target type is decided by forming a scope</li><li class="">then many extension methods can be added together</li></ul></div><div class="">Of course one can also add a single method at a time in as many single scopes. But the fact remains.. the syntax is oriented towards </div><div class=""><ul class="MailOutline"><li class="">anonymity of the source</li><li class="">batch adds</li></ul><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="">as you can see, this is not how C# works.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So now, given that context, I was suggesting that people seem to consider Swift extensions as something they currently are NOT: there is no way to pinpoint a particular extension in a particular module (import the module, inherit its extensions), there is NO way to target a given method in a given extension in a given module.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My point was to suggest that it may show that current extensions are invaluable for something like the adapter pattern (than you E. Gamma), but not entirely suited for the more fine-grained scenario that people keep use in the mail thread.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This led to my proposal to ALSO support (not REPLACE) </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><pre class="line-numbers language-swift" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; margin-top: 0.5em; margin-bottom: 0.5em; background-color: rgb(245, 242, 240); border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.5; overflow: auto; padding: 1em 1em 1em 3.8em; border-top-left-radius: 3px; border-top-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-left-radius: 3px; text-shadow: white 0px 1px; font-family: Consolas, Monaco, 'Andale Mono', 'Ubuntu Mono', monospace; word-break: normal; word-wrap: normal; tab-size: 4; -webkit-hyphens: none; position: relative; counter-reset: linenumber 0;"><code class=" language-swift" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: none; border-top-left-radius: 3px; border-top-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-left-radius: 3px; background-image: none; text-shadow: white 0px 1px; font-family: Consolas, Monaco, 'Andale Mono', 'Ubuntu Mono', monospace; word-spacing: normal; word-break: normal; word-wrap: normal; line-height: 1.5; tab-size: 4; -webkit-hyphens: none; position: relative;">module A <span class="token operator" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(166, 127, 89); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.498039);">===</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">extension</span> <span class="token builtin" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(102, 153, 0);">String</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">{</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">func</span> <span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">oneA</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">{</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">}</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">func</span> <span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">twoA</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">{</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">}</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">func</span> <span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">threeA</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">{</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">}</span>
<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">}</span>
<span class="token comment" spellcheck="true" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(112, 128, 144);">// more like the GO syntax</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">public</span> <span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">static</span> <span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">func</span> <span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">indexOfSubStringInReversedOrder</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span><span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">self</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">:</span><span class="token builtin" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(102, 153, 0);">String</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span>pattern<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">:</span><span class="token builtin" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(102, 153, 0);">String</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span> <span class="token operator" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(166, 127, 89); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.498039);">-</span><span class="token operator" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(166, 127, 89); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.498039);">></span> <span class="token builtin" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(102, 153, 0);">Int</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">{</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">}</span>
module B <span class="token operator" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(166, 127, 89); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.498039);">===</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">extension</span> <span class="token builtin" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(102, 153, 0);">String</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">{</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">func</span> <span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">oneB</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">{</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">}</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">func</span> <span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">twoB</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">{</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">}</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">func</span> <span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">threeB</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">{</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">}</span>
<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">}</span>
<span class="token comment" spellcheck="true" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(112, 128, 144);">// more like the c#/XText/XTend/... syntax</span>
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">public</span> <span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">static</span> <span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">func</span> <span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">indexOfSubStringInReversedOrder</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span><span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">self</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">:</span><span class="token builtin" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(102, 153, 0);">String</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">,</span> pattern<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">:</span><span class="token builtin" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(102, 153, 0);">String</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span> <span class="token operator" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(166, 127, 89); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.498039);">-</span><span class="token operator" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(166, 127, 89); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.498039);">></span> <span class="token builtin" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(102, 153, 0);">Int</span> <span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">{</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">}</span>
</code></pre></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">because we can now do the following without altering anything</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><pre class="line-numbers language-swift" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; margin-top: 0.5em; margin-bottom: 0.5em; background-color: rgb(245, 242, 240); border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); font-size: 13px; line-height: 1.5; overflow: auto; padding: 1em 1em 1em 3.8em; border-top-left-radius: 3px; border-top-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-left-radius: 3px; text-shadow: white 0px 1px; font-family: Consolas, Monaco, 'Andale Mono', 'Ubuntu Mono', monospace; word-break: normal; word-wrap: normal; tab-size: 4; -webkit-hyphens: none; position: relative; counter-reset: linenumber 0;"><code class=" language-swift" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: none; border-top-left-radius: 3px; border-top-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-left-radius: 3px; background-image: none; text-shadow: white 0px 1px; font-family: Consolas, Monaco, 'Andale Mono', 'Ubuntu Mono', monospace; word-spacing: normal; word-break: normal; word-wrap: normal; line-height: 1.5; tab-size: 4; -webkit-hyphens: none; position: relative;"><span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">import</span> <span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">func</span> moduleA<span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">.</span>indexOfSubStringInReversedOrder
<span class="token keyword" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(0, 119, 170);">var</span> idx <span class="token operator" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(166, 127, 89); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.498039);">=</span> <span class="token string" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(102, 153, 0);">"blahblahXYZblah"</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">.</span><span class="token function" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(221, 74, 104);">indexOfSubStringInReversedOrder</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">(</span><span class="token string" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(102, 153, 0);">"zyx"</span><span class="token punctuation" style="-webkit-print-color-adjust: exact; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">)</span>
</code></pre></div></div></div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">What hinders me in the case of Swift’s extensions to write</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">import func moduleA.String.oneB</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This would achieve just the same thing.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>There is also nothing preventing us from allowing named extensions in the future if compelling use cases emerge (at least one has been discussed in the past - initializing stored properties introduced in an extension). That would allow you to say something like `import extension ModuleA.String.MyExtension` or something similar to target the entire extension in one statement.</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-Thorsten</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">swift-evolution mailing list</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">swift-evolution mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a><br class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>