<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 18 May 2016, Brent Royal-Gordon wrote:</div><div class=""><div class=""><br class="">I don't think `Convertible` is clearer than `Initializable`, but I think it rolls off the tongue better, is easier to spell, is more compatible with non-initializer implementations, and in general wins on a lot of squishy, subjective, hard-to-define axes.<br class=""><br class="">Subjectively, I've noticed that a lot of people *don't* think of things like `Double(myFloat)` as being initializers; they think of them as conversions. To those people, `Convertible` is probably the right name.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">Isn't it odd that we use four different terms for both kinds of String conversions that we have?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><font face="Menlo" style="font-size: 11px;" class=""> A1: extension Foo : <b class="">CustomStringConvertible</b> // proposed: <b class="">CustomStringRepresentable</b></font></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" style="font-size: 11px;" class=""> A2: foo.<b class="">description</b></font></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" style="font-size: 11px;" class=""> A3: String(foo) // or `String(<b class="">printing:</b> foo)` if SE-0089 gets accepted</font></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" style="font-size: 11px;" class=""> A4: <b class="">print</b>(foo)</font></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" style="font-size: 11px;" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" style="font-size: 11px;" class=""> B1: extension Foo : <b class="">CustomDebugStringConvertible</b> // proposed: <b class="">CustomDebugStringRepresentable</b></font></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" style="font-size: 11px;" class=""> B2: foo.<b class="">debugDescription</b></font></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" style="font-size: 11px;" class=""> B3: String(<b class="">reflecting:</b> foo)</font></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" style="font-size: 11px;" class=""> B4: <b class="">debugPrint</b>(foo)</font></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I don't have great suggestions but wouldn't it be better to move the naming of cases 1 & 2 towards the words used in cases 3 & 4?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">— Pyry</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></body></html>