<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 17, 2016, at 5:35 AM, Jeremy Pereira via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 16 May 2016, at 18:38, Goffredo Marocchi via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Quite sad we could not get into ABI stability for Swift 3... but are we talking Swift 3.1 or 4.0?<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">Disappointing is my first thought, in fact worrying. Two years after the language was announced, the ABI is still not stable.<br class=""><br class="">Of the original Swift 3 goals, it looks like many will not be met. There were seven goals and only two are still in the Readme file[1]. On the assumption that the other five were all dropped because they will not be achieved in Swift 3, this looks like failure.<br class=""><br class="">I’ve been following the evolution list on and off since it started and it hasn’t felt like failure. In fact, it felt like important progress has been made and the language will be hugely better for it, but I do hope that the development team does take the opportunity to review the release in light of the original goals to see if there are any opportunities to improve the development process for the next release.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstadter%27s_law" class="">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstadter%27s_law</a></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="">[1] <a href="https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/d6e62467b03435bdc4b3bd473c3dcffb9fdd6a71/README.md" class="">https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/d6e62467b03435bdc4b3bd473c3dcffb9fdd6a71/README.md</a> compared to <a href="https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/f11d2e970521f5df0f7510f89ee9c7decb3fa394/README.md" class="">https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/f11d2e970521f5df0f7510f89ee9c7decb3fa394/README.md</a><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class="">-Pierre</div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""></blockquote></div></div></body></html>