<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I’d find this very confusing because it would make declarations look the the declarations of the generic types comes after their uses.<div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 11 May 2016, at 22:56, Hooman Mehr via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">How about a more radical change that eliminates this entire concern and keeps the whole generics declarations in one place: <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Move the entire generic declaration with its brackets somewhere other than between function name and its parameters.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I know this breaks the “norm”, but what do you think?<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 11, 2016, at 10:23 AM, Joe Groff via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">On May 11, 2016, at 6:54 AM, Thorsten Seitz <<a href="mailto:tseitz42@icloud.com" class="">tseitz42@icloud.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">Am 11.05.2016 um 03:56 schrieb Joe Groff via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>>:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On May 10, 2016, at 4:19 PM, Douglas Gregor via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On May 10, 2016, at 3:46 PM, Jordan Rose via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">I think actual keyword “where” provides enough of a delimiter that it won’t be hard to put something before it, and it seems unlikely to me that we would want to add anything after it without some other delimiter. So I’m not too concerned.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Yeah, that’s my feeling as well.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">One conceivable use of `where` that this would shut the door on: infix `where` for generalized existentials, e.g. `Protocol where AssociatedType == Int` could be the Protocol existential with Self.AssociatedType constrained to Int.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Why do you think that?<br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; 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