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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 10, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Rick Ballard via swift-build-dev <<a href="mailto:swift-build-dev@swift.org" class="">swift-build-dev@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 10, 2016, at 8:49 AM, Matthew Johnson via swift-build-dev <<a href="mailto:swift-build-dev@swift.org" class="">swift-build-dev@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 10, 2016, at 2:19 AM, Dan Appel via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">+1 to `swift package` being a little too verbose. However, I like the alternative `swift pm`/`swiftpm` (as noted in the proposal) even less. I have already been referring to the package manager as SPM, so IMO that name does not lose out on any clarity while also allowing it to be terse enough for every day use. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I would not be against having both `spm` and `swift package` as Honza suggested.<br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">+ 1 to the proposal in general and also to adding the `spm` alias.</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">Question for those of you who are advocating for a "spm" alias: Do you have a strong argument / preference for "spm" vs "swiftpm"? Personally I have been abbreviating the project as "swiftpm" and not "spm" when I talk about it, and have been trying to push that as the preferred abbreviation. "spm" is a few less keystrokes, but is a much more generic, less googleable name; out of context, it's impossible to know what it refers to. Once the project gets enough mindshare, like "npm" has, that might be less of an issue, but I still personally prefer the more descriptive "swiftpm". Thoughts?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>- Rick</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">swift-build-dev mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:swift-build-dev@swift.org" class="">swift-build-dev@swift.org</a><br class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-build-dev<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></body></html>