<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">This is probably the best pattern to deal with this, since there are a number of ugly problems to deal with if passing an incomplete object around. initializers exist with a lot of special case rules around self because they are reusing the term for something that is actually not yet self, but an incubating object.<br class=""><br class=""><div class="">There are challenges just in passing this incubating self into another function or static method, or (even worse) calling a method on that incomplete object which might be dynamically dispatched. For example, you may require synthesizing something self-like to pass around instead, and have to create new versions of the functions that can operate with the structure and honor rules about the behavior if say a read against an uninitialized videoPlayerLayer happens. Even solving the problems of making this work, you would need to deterministically know the values were set (including in the case where the method you called was actually redefined by a subclass in another module), and apply them back into the incubating self object.</div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">tl;dr initializers are complex and the language has restrictions and requirements around initializers to hide complexity and enforce safety.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-DW</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 30, 2016, at 12:18 PM, Hooman Mehr via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Besides the ages old <b class="">designated initializer pattern</b> that is already suggested (having a few designated initializers and a bunch of convenience initializers), this is how I have been dealing with this since Swift 1.0:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #bb2ca2" class="">import</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> UIKit</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #bb2ca2" class="">import</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> AVFoundation</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #bb2ca2" class="">class</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> SomeViewController: </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #703daa" class="">UIViewController</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> {</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(79, 129, 135);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;" class=""> private </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #bb2ca2" class="">typealias</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;" class=""> My = </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">SomeViewController</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(0, 132, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">// MARK: Properties</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #bb2ca2" class="">private</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #bb2ca2" class="">var</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> videoPlayer: </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #703daa" class="">AVPlayer</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #bb2ca2" class="">private</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #bb2ca2" class="">var</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> videoPlayerLayer: </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #703daa" class="">AVPlayerLayer</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(0, 132, 0);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">// MARK: - Object Lifecycle</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #bb2ca2" class="">override</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #bb2ca2" class="">init</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">(nibName: </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #703daa" class="">String</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">?, bundle nibBundle: </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #703daa" class="">NSBundle</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">?) {</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(79, 129, 135);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;" class=""> (</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">videoPlayer</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;" class="">, </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">videoPlayerLayer</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;" class="">) = </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">My</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;" class="">.</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #31595d" class="">commonInitialization</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;" class="">()</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #bb2ca2" class="">super</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">.</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #bb2ca2" class="">init</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">(nibName: nibName, bundle: nibBundle)</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> }</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #bb2ca2" class="">required</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #bb2ca2" class="">init</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">?(coder decoder: </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #703daa" class="">NSCoder</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">) {</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(79, 129, 135);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;" class=""> (</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">videoPlayer</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;" class="">, </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">videoPlayerLayer</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;" class="">) = </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">My</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;" class="">.</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #31595d" class="">commonInitialization</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;" class="">()</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #bb2ca2" class="">super</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">.</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #bb2ca2" class="">init</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">(coder: decoder)</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> }</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #bb2ca2" class="">private</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #bb2ca2" class="">static</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #bb2ca2" class="">func</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> commonInitialization() -> (</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #703daa" class="">AVPlayer</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">, </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #703daa" class="">AVPlayerLayer</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">) {</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #bb2ca2" class="">let</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> player = </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #703daa" class="">AVPlayer</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">(URL: </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #703daa" class="">NSURL</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">(fileReferenceLiteral: </span><span style="color: rgb(209, 47, 27);" class="">"</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(209, 47, 27);" class="">movie.mov"</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;" class="">))</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #bb2ca2" class="">let</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> layer = </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #703daa" class="">AVPlayerLayer</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">(player: player)</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #bb2ca2" class="">return</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> (player,layer)</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> }</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">}</span></div></div><div class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">It is not perfect, but good enough for me. I usually use this when I have more than one designated initializer and they share a significant amount of code. I usually also have input parameters for this </span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(49, 89, 93);" class="">commonInitialization</span> static or class method. I make it a class method when I anticipate subclassing of the class.</div><div class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">Side Note: As you see, I typically define a couple of private type aliases (Usually `I` and/or `My`) to help with readability of code involving static members.</span></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 27, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Shannon Potter via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Consider a relatively-common init pattern:<br class=""><br class="">class SomeViewController: UIViewController {<br class=""><br class=""> // MARK: Properties<br class=""><br class=""> private var videoPlayer: AVPlayer<br class=""> private var videoPlayerLayer: AVPlayerLayer<br class=""><br class=""> // MARK: - Object Lifecycle<br class=""><br class=""> override init(nibName: String?, bundle nibBundle: NSBundle?) {<br class=""> super.init(nibName: nibName, bundle: nibBundle)<br class=""><br class=""> commonInitialization()<br class=""> }<br class=""><br class=""> required init?(coder decoder: NSCoder) {<br class=""> super.init(coder: decoder)<br class=""><br class=""> commonInitialization()<br class=""> }<br class=""><br class=""> private func commonInitialization() {<br class=""> videoPlayer = AVPlayer(...)<br class=""> videoPlayerLayer = AVPlayerLayer(player: videoPlayer)<br class=""> }<br class=""><br class="">}<br class=""><br class="">This does not work. Both properties are non-optional, and the compiler complains that they are not initialized in either init method. It seems rather common to want a single point of contact regarding object initialization, regardless of the path taken to initialize that object. Ideally, objects could all be funneled to one designated initializer, but this isn’t always the case.<br class=""><br class="">What are people’s thoughts about either a specialized function that is always called at the very end of each object’s lifecycle OR some sort of attribute for a function that hints that the compiler should follow it if called in an init function to check for property initialization?<br class=""><br class="">func commonInit() {<br class=""><br class="">}<br class=""><br class="">or<br class=""><br class="">@extend_init private func commonInitialization() {<br class=""><br class="">}<br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">swift-evolution mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution" class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution</a><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">swift-evolution mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a><br class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></body></html>