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<div class="">Core libraries would be a great place, I just think this is a huge oversight in the language itself. I don’t think libraries found out on Github should be trusted, I think crypto should be done in an organized effort to ensure that the implementations
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<span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Date: </span>Thursday, April 14, 2016 at 2:33 PM<br class="">
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<span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Subject: </span>Re: [swift-evolution] Crypto routines as part of the core library<br class="">
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<div class="">Why would it need to be built into the language proper instead of the core libraries? I am not too familiar with the core libraries, but perhaps <a href="https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-corelibs-dev" class="">swift-corelibs-dev</a> is
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<div class="">On Apr 13, 2016, at 7:24 PM, Travis Beech via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="">So what would it take to get a standard set of crypto API's built into the language?<br class="">
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On Apr 13, 2016, at 10:11 AM, David Waite <<a href="mailto:david@alkaline-solutions.com" class="">david@alkaline-solutions.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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<div class="">I don’t know if we need a boost-like parent project in order to start building core code to be brought for inclusion.
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<div class="">I think success will naturally bring such a project structure - people seeking a curated and integrated set of frameworks to get common functionality. </div>
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<div class="">On Apr 13, 2016, at 12:16 PM, Tino Heth via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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