<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><b class="">What is your evaluation of the proposal?<br class=""></b></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-1. The examples are not compelling enough. The only value currently, that I see at least, is the ability to require a specific storage mechanism for properties and to provide default values for all implementations of those properties.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><b class="">Is the problem being addressed significant enough to warrant a change to Swift?<br class=""></b></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Maybe, but I believe updates to protocols are the better path.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><b class="">Does this proposal fit well with the feel and direction of Swift?<br class=""></b></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">No. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><b class="">If you have used other languages or libraries with a similar feature, how do you feel that this proposal compares to those?<br class=""></b></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Yes, such as C++ and C#. In the vast majority of cases, the usage seemed to break down into two basic categories: mixins and interfaces. I don't believe this proposal really addresses either of those use cases well.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><b class="">How much effort did you put into your review? A glance, a quick reading, or an in-depth study?</b></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">A quick reading.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-David</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 26, 2016, at 10:11 AM, Joe Groff via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hello Swift community,<br class=""><br class="">The review of “Abstract classes and methods” begins now and runs through March 4, 2016. The proposal is available here:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><a href="https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0026-abstract-classes-and-methods.md" class="">https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0026-abstract-classes-and-methods.md</a></blockquote><br class="">Reviews are an important part of the Swift evolution process. All reviews should be sent to the swift-evolution mailing list at<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><a href="https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution" class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution</a></blockquote><br class="">or, if you would like to keep your feedback private, directly to the review manager. When replying, please try to keep the proposal link at the top of the message:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class="">Proposal link:</blockquote><br class=""><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><a href="https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0026-abstract-classes-and-methods.md" class="">https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0026-abstract-classes-and-methods.md</a></blockquote></blockquote><br class=""><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class="">Reply text</blockquote><br class=""><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class="">Other replies</blockquote><br class=""><b class="">What goes into a review?<br class=""></b><br class="">The goal of the review process is to improve the proposal under review through constructive criticism and, eventually, determine the direction of Swift. When writing your review, here are some questions you might want to answer in your review:<br class=""><br class=""><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• What is your evaluation of the proposal?<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• Is the problem being addressed significant enough to warrant a change to Swift?<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• Does this proposal fit well with the feel and direction of Swift?<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• If you have used other languages or libraries with a similar feature, how do you feel that this proposal compares to those?<br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>• How much effort did you put into your review? A glance, a quick reading, or an in-depth study?<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>More information about the Swift evolution process is available at:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><a href="https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/process.md" class="">https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/process.md</a></blockquote><br class="">Thank you,<br class=""><br class="">-Joe<br class="">Review Manager</div>_______________________________________________<br class="">swift-evolution mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a><br class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>