<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Inadvertent send from my iPhone. :-/ <div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:29 PM, Dave Abrahams via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Thu Feb 11 2016, James Hillhouse IV <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px;">But lo and behold, if you go back to an older version of Webster’s,<br class="">apparently the 1917 edition if Wiktionary is to be believed, it turns<br class="">out that ‘union’ was both a noun and a verb and therefore at least in<br class="">that era’s usage had a past participle.<br class=""><br class=""><a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/union#English" class="">https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/union#English</a><br class=""><a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/unioning" class="">https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/unioning</a><br class=""></blockquote><br class="" style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px;"><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; float: none; display: inline !important;">I'm just gonna smile now. :-)</span><br class="" style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px;"></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>Dave, I can see that the Oxford English Dictionary is more your speed, so here’s its link to the verb ‘union’, along with its past participle ‘unioning’, in OED (sadly, behind a paywall),<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><a href="http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/214680?redirectedFrom=Unioning+#eid" class="">http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/214680?redirectedFrom=Unioning+#eid</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class="">Now we’re both smiling and all of us better educated about the word ‘union’. :-)</div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">The reason I commented on ‘union’ as a verb was because, with</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">‘unioning’ proposed in SetAlgebra, I figured someone in the Swift<br class="">group must have been a fan of older verb-form usage of ‘union’.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Yep, someone must've. ;-)<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Well, now I’m just relieved 'intersectioning’ wasn’t proposed. ;-)<br class=""><br class=""><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class="">This entertaining back-and-forth aside, none of this makes ‘unioning’ any more palatable as a replacement for ‘union’. From what I can see, the names suggested by others in place of ‘unioning’ such as ‘unite’, ‘unionize’, et cetera would be an improvement. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">That’s what I get for basing my comment on ‘Wiki’-anything.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Feb 11, 2016, at 5:05 PM, Dave Abrahams via swift-evolution<br class=""><<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">on Thu Feb 11 2016, Jim Hillhouse<br class=""><<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a><br class=""><<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org</a>>><br class="">wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Are these function names being based on the present participle of each verb, e.g. 'union' and 'intersect'? <br class=""><br class="">The present participle of 'union' is technically speaking,<br class="">'unioning'.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Technically speaking, I'm pretty sure you can't have a participle of<br class="">anything that isn't a verb, and “union” isn't one AFAICT.<br class=""><br class=""><a href="http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/150843/verb-for-to-form-the-union-of-a-and-b" class="">http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/150843/verb-for-to-form-the-union-of-a-and-b</a><br class=""><http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/150843/verb-for-to-form-the-union-of-a-and-b><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">But it is not widely used. In fact, in both Pages and Word, 'unioning'<br class="">is flagged as a misspelling of 'union'.<br class=""><br class="">The present participle of 'intersect' is 'intersecting';<br class="">'intersection' is a noun.<br class=""><br class="">As currently presented, the use of 'union' and 'intersection' are a<br class="">mixing of rarely used though correct present participle verb tense and<br class="">a noun. I think it would be better to recognize that 'union' and<br class="">'intersection' are two universally used mathematical terms and to<br class="">forego the suggested verb tense gymnastics.<br class=""><br class="">Jim<br class=""><br class="">jimhillhouse@me.com<br class="">512-484-9489<br class=""><br class="">Sent from Jim's iPhone<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Feb 11, 2016, at 12:09 PM, Xiaodi Wu via swift-evolution<br class=""><swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">MHO: +1 on the intention of using less unwieldy names, but -1 on the<br class="">specific solution. I fear that the current solution has some<br class="">inexplicable inconsistencies and some Englishing which verges, again<br class="">MHO, on Hungarianisms that others have mentioned are to be<br class="">explicitly avoided.<br class=""><br class="">For example, why is it intersection() but unioning()? Surely it<br class="">should be either intersecting() and unioning() or intersection() and<br class="">union()? Also, I understand that there's precedent elsewhere and<br class="">that uniting() is not a good counterpart to union(), but unioning()<br class="">is a pretty unsavory mangling of the noun. And then we have<br class="">exclusiveOring(), which is just not English.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:38 AM Dave Abrahams via swift-evolution<br class=""><swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Hi All,<br class=""><br class="">The API guidelines working group took up the issue of the InPlace suffix<br class="">yesterday, and decided that it was not to be used anywhere in the<br class="">standard library. We are planning to apply the changes shown here<br class=""><https://gist.github.com/dabrahams/d872556291a3cb797bd5> to the API of<br class="">SetAlgebra (and consequently Set) to make it conform to the guidelines<br class="">under development.<br class=""><br class="">Comments welcome as usual,<br class=""><br class="">--<br class="">-Dave<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">swift-evolution mailing list<br class="">swift-evolution@swift.org<br class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution<br class=""></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br class="">swift-evolution mailing list<br class="">swift-evolution@swift.org<br class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution<br class=""></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br class="">swift-evolution mailing list<br class="">swift-evolution@swift.org<br class=""><mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org><br class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution <https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">-- <br class="">-Dave<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">swift-evolution mailing list<br class="">swift-evolution@swift.org<br class=""><mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org><br class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution <https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution><br class=""></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br class="">swift-evolution mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a><br class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">-- <br class="">-Dave<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">swift-evolution mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a><br class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution<br class=""></blockquote></div></div></body></html>