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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Le 3 févr. 2016 à 15:47:15, Douglas Gregor via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-family: LucidaGrande; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">On Feb 3, 2016, at 5:10 AM, Jean-Daniel Dupas via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Using function availability has proven fragile in the past too. A function may be present but private on older system, and have a slightly different behavior or crash, and so should not be used.</div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This is a failing of the -respondsToSelector: idiom for checking availability. Swift’s #available feature checks the actual OS version, so it doesn’t suffer from this problem.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>- Doug</div><div style="font-family: LucidaGrande; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Le 2 févr. 2016 à 11:03, James Campbell via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Coming from a web background (before my iOS career) to me #avaliable has huge problem. It encourages fragility.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In my eyes we should encourage two types of detection: Features to make code more adaptable to different environments and language version detection: so we can understand the actual code.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">See this example below:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">func magic(object: Object)</div><div class="">{</div><div class=""> if(#avaliable(9.0, 10))</div><div class=""> {</div><div class=""> object.foo()</div><div class=""> }</div><div class="">}</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ideally for me I would love to check if the foo function exists like so:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">func iOS9OnlyProtocolFunction(object: Object)</div><div class="">{</div><div class=""> if(#avaliable(Object.foo))</div><div class=""> {</div><div class=""> object.foo()</div><div class=""> }</div><div class="">else </div><div class="">{</div><div class=""> object.baz()</div><div class=""> }</div><div class="">}</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think this encourages feature detection which results in less fragile code. What I would love to do is also to extend this to extensions so we could encourage polyfills.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">extend object where not_avaliable(Object.foo) </div><div class="">{</div><div class=""> func foo() </div><div class=""> {</div><div class=""> //Polyfill for platforms which don't support the Object.foo method</div><div class=""> }</div><div class="">}</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Not sure about compiler details but being able to polyfill the function results in much cleaner code for me. 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