<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">I'm generally in favor of the proposed changes. I'll just note some<br class="">minor points and disagreements:<br class=""><br class="">* Like I mentioned in my SE-0023 review, I would be OK with keeping<br class="">the "Type" suffix for protocols but have no strong preference.<br class=""><br class="">* I'm in favor of keeping `precondition()`. `require()` might be<br class="">easier to grasp at first but personally I really came to like<br class="">`precondition()`.<br class="">It fells both precise and I prefer the passive `precondition()` to the<br class="">active `require()` for this case. To me it fits the primary meaning<br class="">better; stating an API contract. The fact that the condition is<br class="">actively checked is secondary to that.<br class=""><br class="">* I also agree with Radosław in that I prefer `removeAll(keepCapacity:<br class="">Bool)` to `removeAll(keepingCapacity: Bool)`.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Why?<br class=""><br class="">I had a hard time justifying "keeping" to myself for a while, but<br class="">eventually I realized that this pattern is less ambiguous, at least in<br class="">general, since many verbs are also nouns. Okay, "keeps" haven't been<br class="">considered high-tech construction elements since the middle ages, but<br class="">it's easy to understand how you'd be interested in the capacity of a<br class="">keep.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Why not, though? adding `-ing`s in this context has all of the<br class="">problems -ed/-ing has with method names,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Which problems, sorry?</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>A bit of extra spelling gymnastics… Maybe I’m the only one bothered by this, but I’d just prefer a shorter/simpler name in absence of a compelling reason to do otherwise. (You did make an argument for why in a later post, fwiw. I’m not super compelled by it, but also don’t feel so strongly against the `ing` to argue further ;) )</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">and none of the necessity of conveying mutability information.<br class=""><br class="">What’s wrong with “keepCapacity” as a parameter name?<br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">It can be interpreted as denoting the capacity of the keep.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Wow, that… would have never crossed my mind ;)</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">* What is the rationale for moving `unsafeUnwrap` into Optional but<br class="">not `unsafeAddressOf` into AnyObject?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Language limitation: AnyObject can't be modified or extended.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">I can certainly see the safety argument against moving it but I don't<br class="">see how that would apply to `unsafeAddressOf` but not `unsafeUnwrap`?<br class=""><br class="">* `EnumeratedSequence` and `Repeated` feel weird to me. They make<br class="">sense given the API guidelines and the previous `EnumerateSequence`<br class="">and `Repeat` were a bit clunky as well but these somehow feel a bit<br class="">worse... That might be wholly subjective though and I don't really<br class="">have a good suggestion. The only thing that came to mind was<br class="">`EnumerationSequence` and `Repetition` but I'm not overly fond of<br class="">those either especially not to the point of deviating from the norm...<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Yes, they're a little clunky. No, I don't have any better ideas either<br class="">:-)<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">* This is not a disagreement but I'd be interested in hearing the<br class="">reasons for replacing Generator(Type) with Iterator(Protocol) if<br class="">someone finds the time. I can speculate of course but it's probably<br class="">easier for someone to give me a short summary :-)<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I think these messages give all the details:<br class=""><br class=""><a href="http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=m2h9i4gffx.fsf%40eno.apple.com" class="">http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=m2h9i4gffx.fsf%40eno.apple.com</a><br class="">http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.swift.evolution/5344<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">* Typo:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">+ public func take() -> Memory // Should be Pointee<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><br class="">Nice, thanks.<br class=""><br class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">-Dave<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">swift-evolution mailing list<br class="">swift-evolution@swift.org<br class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">swift-evolution mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution" class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution</a><br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; 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