<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">@Tino,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I agree that this isn’t very productive, so I have in effect taken your suggestion.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have changed tack and replied to the main review process instead of this thread with a revised suggestion giving examples like you suggest.&nbsp;</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">&nbsp;— Howard.<br class=""><div class=""><br class="">

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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 8 Jan 2016, at 4:31 AM, Tino Heth &lt;<a href="mailto:2th@gmx.de" class="">2th@gmx.de</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Hi there!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I've been thinking about a "contest" for an alternative to memberwise initialization, but I guess the game is over before it began:</div><div class="">Afaics, Chris basically wrote the proposal himself, so I have little doubt on its acceptance.</div><div class="">I additionally really dislike the style of the discussion — but that wouldn't stop me continuing it.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">How about you?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My idea was to write two small examples (one where "our" syntax really shines, and one where the problems of memberwise init are as obvious as possible), ask Matthew to do the same and then let each team express the foreign examples in their own syntax...</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best regards,</div><div class="">Tino</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica" class="">"Programming&nbsp;today&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;race&nbsp;between&nbsp;software&nbsp;engineers&nbsp;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></font></div><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica" class="">striving&nbsp;to&nbsp;build&nbsp;bigger&nbsp;and&nbsp;better&nbsp;idiot-proof&nbsp;programs,&nbsp;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></font></div><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica" class="">and&nbsp;the&nbsp;Universe&nbsp;trying&nbsp;to&nbsp;produce&nbsp;bigger&nbsp;and&nbsp;better&nbsp;idiots.&nbsp;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></font></div><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica" class="">So&nbsp;far,&nbsp;the&nbsp;Universe&nbsp;is&nbsp;winning."</font></div>


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