<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">+1 from me too.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">(My vote takes into account the various alternatives were put on the table and weeded down thoughtfully to the one we're voting on.)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-- E</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 3, 2016, at 5:57 AM, T.J. Usiyan via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">+1 from me. It is a solid change that addresses an oddity in the language.</div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 7:27 AM, plx via swift-evolution<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word;" class=""><div class="">I like this.</div><br class=""><div class=""><span class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 3, 2016, at 1:38 AM, Douglas Gregor via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word;" class="">Hello Swift community,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The review of "Replace `typealias` keyword with `associatedtype` for associated type declarations” begins now and runs through Wednesday, January 6th. The proposal is available here:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""> </span><a href="https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0011-replace-typealias-associated.md" target="_blank" class="">https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0011-replace-typealias-associated.md</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">Reviews are an important part of the Swift evolution process. All reviews should be sent to the swift-evolution mailing list at</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""> </span><a href="https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">or, if you would like to keep your feedback private, directly to the review manager.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">What goes into a review?</div><div class=""><br class="">The goal of the review process is to improve the proposal under review through constructive criticism and, eventually, determine the direction of Swift. When writing your review, here are some questions you might want to answer in your review:<br class=""><br class=""><div class=""><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""> </span>* What is your evaluation of the proposal?<br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div></span><div class="">It’s a good idea and improves the language.</div><span class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""> </span>* Is the problem being addressed significant enough to warrant a change to Swift?<br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div></span><div class="">Yes, the existing situation is comprehensible (if you think like a language-implementer) but highly non-intuitive and generally sub-optimal for language users.</div><span class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""> </span>* Does this proposal fit well with the feel and direction of Swift?<br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div></span><div class="">Yes; conservation-of-reserved-terms is valuable, but giving different things different names fits the feel much better here.</div><span class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""> </span>* If you have you used other languages or libraries with a similar feature, how do you feel that this proposal compares to those?<br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div></span><div class="">To the extent I’m aware of analogous situations in other languages, none of them actually seem to use distinct keywords, but they also don’t have the confusing situation Swift has vis-a-vis typealiases with concrete definitions (in protocols).</div><span class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""> </span>* How much effort did you put into your review? A glance, a quick reading, or an in-depth study?<br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div></span><div class="">Quick read, plus having been bit by issues the proposal addresses numerous times.</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><span class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">More information about the Swift evolution process is available at</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""> </span><a href="https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/process.md" target="_blank" class="">https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/process.md</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""> </span>Cheers,</div><div class=""><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""> </span>Doug Gregor</div><div class=""><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""> </span>Review Manager</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><img src="https://u2002410.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/open?upn=9EwXyNl81W9TT3yZ17PL28-2Be7Ks-2FXLjqa0dZcsddi5YWq9Bbc9tCuXNmQIYbDa72sAuqvFDfb3FCCcoatOMiAw8eVy8L8tXe-2Bc77hLlmtT82VzwNgWSVQrFub-2BHffBLnpTsk1Van3KxDoBqnAGMSfNFSF5ITPzBFVrPb43w4ejvl9l-2FR-2FZBtWBtvcfeSZGzg9By9RR-2FKmX3w0cwOahvm3BSSLOuzkBtX3nVMIHpyRhY-3D" alt="" width="1" height="1" border="0" style="min-height: 1px !important; 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