<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div><div class=""> * What is your evaluation of the proposal?</div><div class=""><span class="" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>-1 I don’t support this proposal</div><div class=""><span class="" style="white-space: pre;"> </span></div><div class=""> * Is the problem being addressed significant enough to warrant a change to Swift?</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>For me not really, even if I can’t agree with people that sustain the thesis which syntax highlighting is a sufficient way to recognise local variable against instance properties.</div><div class=""><span class="" style="white-space: pre;"> </span></div><div class=""> * Does this proposal fit well with the feel and direction of Swift?</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Swift value brevity and clarity and accepting this proposal will add a lot of noise, not counting the fact that in Swift 3 will likely break almost all the swift code available in the short term (and I don’t think that an automation translation can do always the right thing).</div><div class=""><span class="" style="white-space: pre;"> </span></div><div class=""> * If you have you used other languages or libraries with a similar feature, how do you feel that this proposal compares to those?</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>I’ve only used Obj-C extensively but in terms of values is like the opposite of Swift about brevity.</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>For me the implicit self was one of the best features announced with Swift. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> * How much effort did you put into your review? A glance, a quick reading, or an in-depth study?</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>I’ve followed sparingly the discussion and I’ve read the official proposal on GitHub and all the response on this thread.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- Jacopo</div></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Douglas Gregor via swift-evolution<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word;" class="">Hello Swift community,<div class=""><br class=""><div class="">The review of “Require self for accessing instance members” begins now and runs through Sunday, December 20th. The proposal is available here:</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""> </span><a href="https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0009-require-self-for-accessing-instance-members.md" target="_blank" class="">https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0009-require-self-for-accessing-instance-members.md</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">Reviews are an important part of the Swift evolution process. All reviews should be sent to the swift-evolution mailing list at</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""> </span><a href="https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">or, if you would like to keep your feedback private, directly to the review manager.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">What goes into a review?</div><div class=""><br class="">The goal of the review process is to improve the proposal under review through constructive criticism and, eventually, determine the direction of Swift. When writing your review, here are some questions you might want to answer in your review:<br class=""><br class=""><div class=""><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""> </span>* What is your evaluation of the proposal?<br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""> </span>* Is the problem being addressed significant enough to warrant a change to Swift?<br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""> </span>* Does this proposal fit well with the feel and direction of Swift?<br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""> </span>* If you have you used other languages or libraries with a similar feature, how do you feel that this proposal compares to those?<br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""> </span>* How much effort did you put into your review? A glance, a quick reading, or an in-depth study?<br class=""></div><br class=""></div><div class="">More information about the Swift evolution process is available at</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""> </span><a href="https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/process.md" target="_blank" class="">https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/process.md</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""> </span>Cheers,</div><div class=""><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""> </span>Doug Gregor</div><div class=""><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class=""> </span>Review Manager</div></div><img src="https://u2002410.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/open?upn=FcqcGV1X8K7Vnxfj3w9H7RBvIFFHk0as3UHXRDc-2BSJsaYv-2BKSPAHkCw7ylKHm-2FTX8g-2FeW80Np2DG81-2B2GGkZlA8bIZLgQtBbBcuAMBkga4bNGje3cnuOupV-2Fsc6YxVuQtKELZktKiYRCa1QeNgoR2q7pdpf-2F3XQ1oZ2L6USJOh01bOo8n45qgL6gUZ4MmkZGaiXz3DAnv0ArzvMdPa51uCA8lehmD-2BSmIKkgZvP5QdQ-3D" alt="" width="1" height="1" border="0" style="min-height: 1px !important; width: 1px !important; border-width: 0px !important; margin: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important;" class=""></div><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">swift-evolution mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution</a><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></body></html>