<div dir="ltr">I encourage you to read the <a href="https://swift.org/documentation/api-design-guidelines.html">Swift API Design Guidelines</a>, as there are a couple of things there that discourage what you are suggesting:<div><ul><li>"<strong>Clarity is more important than brevity</strong>. Although Swift code can be compact, it is a <em>non-goal</em> to enable the smallest possible code with the fewest characters. Brevity in Swift code, where it occurs, is a side-effect of the strong type system and features that naturally reduce boilerplate."</li><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><p style="margin:0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><strong style="">Avoid abbreviations</strong>. Abbreviations, especially non-standard ones, are effectively terms-of-art, because understanding depends on correctly translating them into their non-abbreviated forms.</p><blockquote style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 2em;border-left-width:3px;border-left-color:rgb(243,243,243);border-left-style:solid;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><p style="margin:0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px">The intended meaning for any abbreviation you use should be easily found by a web search.</p></blockquote></li></ul><div>Thanks,</div><div>Seth</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 6:52 PM Feijian Sun via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div dir="ltr">Thank you for responding so late!<div><br></div><div>I agree with you that "subs" is not very obvious for subscript. While learning swift, I have a feeling that it contains so many long words as the keywords, such as</div><div><br></div><div>fallthrough, dynamicType, associativity, convenience, nonmutating, precedence, etc..</div><div><br></div><div>I understand there is a need for clarity. But I think it's also important to keep a concise and simple naming style where it's possible.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks again.</div><div><br><div><hr>Subject: Re: [swift-evolution] Proposal for Replacing Keyword "subscript" with "subs"<br>From: <a href="mailto:jackl@apple.com" target="_blank">jackl@apple.com</a><br>Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 18:22:55 -0800<br>CC: <a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:feijian_sun@hotmail.com" target="_blank">feijian_sun@hotmail.com</a></div></div></div></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><br><br>It’s non-obvious to me that “subs” is short for subscript, whereas “init” and “func” have only one obvious expansion.<div><br></div><div>Jack <br><div><blockquote><div>On Dec 10, 2015, at 6:12 PM, Feijian Sun via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;line-height:21.3px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Hello, </span><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br style="line-height:21.3px"></div><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">I have a proposal to replace the long keyword "subscript" with the shorter version, "subs". The idea is to keep the concise naming style on the language keywords, like "init" and "func".</div><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br style="line-height:21.3px"></div><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">So, Instead of:</div><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br style="line-height:21.3px"></div><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">subscript(index: Int) -> Int {</div><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> ... ...</div><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">}</div><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br style="line-height:21.3px"></div><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">we could simply do:</div><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br style="line-height:21.3px"></div><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">subs(index: Int) -> Int{</div><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div style="line-height:21.3px"> ... ...</div><div style="line-height:21.3px">}</div></div><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br style="line-height:21.3px"></div><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Does this mean a big change on the parser side? what do you think?</div><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br style="line-height:21.3px"></div><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Thank you!</div><div dir="ltr"></div></div></div><img src="https://u2002410.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/open?upn=fPHCHxM8OEqkFI0LoY8YMuXDKRTx6ILsXcJMmyHEOCKoTIfmBG-2BB29EKJ66isdwzGloc7ZFX7-2BF4OLFKGhYR452GcWvMK0zfSjEY7yDYXwTU-2BqOF3eg0yWlwBqzUBGHwi6g1BOj7opXk2sLJPbrnwlBuFcyEcyjSnpyPqmtTNTT3mulfq22DLIXezmou8RS-2Fu8xZDmt9bQjdElFmd01-2F3yStFIKMb-2FJgynEvhIuAqv0-3D" alt="" width="1" height="1" border="0" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; min-height: 1px !important; width: 1px !important; border-width: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important;"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline!important"><span> </span>_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline!important">swift-evolution mailing list</span><br style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a><br style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><a href="https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution</a></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div></div></div> </div>
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