<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 5, 2015, at 7:05 PM, Austin Zheng via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">ml><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">I disagree with the idea that a type system is too much of a hurdle for beginner programmers to overcome.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Don’t you think that Python currently provides a better introduction to programming due to its simplicity?</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Austin</div><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 5, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Kevin Lundberg via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">This is somewhat possible today on Apple platforms with AnyObject. You can call any objc-visible method on AnyObject and it will compile, and the return type will also be AnyObject (I don't recall if the return type is optional as well or not). This doesn't work with value types, but neither does id in objc.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Having a more complete lax typed mode similar to Python or php I think is of limited usefulness, would add too much complexity to the language, and yield too much uncertainty about any given piece of swift code. <br class=""><br class="">--<div class="">Kevin Lundberg</div></div><div class=""><br class="">On Dec 5, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Adrian Kashivskyy via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class="">I can't believe I'm seeing a proposal to remove type safety, one of the fundamental features of Swift...<br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Wiadomość napisana przez Amir Michail via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> w dniu 05.12.2015, o godz. 20:51:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><p class="">Python is still easier than Swift for beginning programmers. But maybe such a mode can allow Swift to be used by beginners also? <em class="">____________________________________________</em>_ swift-evolution mailing list <a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a> <a href="https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution" class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution</a></p>
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