<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Removing Objective-C compatibility in Swift (which does not even have a complete set of libraries yet) in this stage would undermine its usability and the completeness of the libraries, and when the project finally matured a bad reputation of “incomplete support” would already be out there, hampering its use.</blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Could you point out five Objective-C Linux libraries (apart from GNU Foundation) that you'd like to use in your Swift projects on Linux? I suspect you can't and that's why I strongly disagree. You only need Objective-C on Apple platforms – and that's not going away. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Maintaining Objective-C interoperability for non-Apple platforms is a very niche aim and could potentially lead to longer development and evolvement process. That's a reasonable tradeoff.</div><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Wiadomość napisana przez Maxthon Chan <<a href="mailto:xcvista@me.com" class="">xcvista@me.com</a>> w dniu 04.12.2015, o godz. 11:54:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Let’s take a look at C# which Microsoft designed to replace C++ MFC. The compatibility is never removed although C# itself is pretty complete already. During early days (2002) lots of components in C# are stubs calling back to MFC but nevertheless this presented a more or less complete library set to the user and allowed the language to gain traction - so many traction that now people demand it to be ported to multiple platforms.<br class=""><br class="">Removing Objective-C compatibility in Swift (which does not even have a complete set of libraries yet) in this stage would undermine its usability and the completeness of the libraries, and when the project finally matured a bad reputation of “incomplete support” would already be out there, hampering its use.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Dec 4, 2015, at 18:33, Alex Blewitt <<a href="mailto:alex.blewitt@gmail.com" class="">alex.blewitt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">A more interesting question would be: is Swift designed to ultimately replace Objective-C? If so, baking in compatibility from the outset of the open source version would probably be going in the wrong direction.<br class=""><br class="">Alex<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">swift-evolution mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a><br class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>