[swift-evolution] [Proposal] Revamp the playground quicklook APIs

Chris Lattner clattner at nondot.org
Wed Jan 10 18:21:11 CST 2018

> On Jan 10, 2018, at 2:10 PM, Connor Wakamo <cwakamo at apple.com> wrote:
>> What is the use-case for a type conforming to this protocol but returning nil?  If there is a use case for that, why not have such an implementation return “self” instead?
> Riley and Saagar answered this down-thread, but to confirm — returning nil would allow some instances of a type to use the “default” playground logging presentation while others use an alternate presentation instead.

Right, this gets back to the question: what is the use case for this?  When would a type want to “sometimes” replace the default representation?

It seems to me that a type author either wants to take control of presentation or not.  While I’m sure we could imagine some use case for the behavior you’re describing, is it big enough to make it worth complicating the API?

> This isn’t handled by `return self` because, unless I’m mistaken, there’s no way to detect that from the caller’s side (e.g. with two `Any` values, I can’t do `self === self.playgroundRepresentation`).


>> In short, can we change playgroundRepresentation to return Any instead of Any?.  Among other things, doing so could ease the case of playground formatting Optional itself, which should presumably get a conditional conformance to this.  :-)
> I don’t think we can change this to return `Any` instead of `Any?`. I think there are potentially cases where a developer might want to selectively opt-in to this behavior.

Which cases?  How important are they?

> I also don’t think that `Optional` would get a conditional conformance to this. I’m not proposing that any standard library or corelibs types gain conformances to this protocol. Instead, it’s up to a playground logger (such as PlaygroundLogger in swift-xcode-playground-support <https://github.com/apple/swift-xcode-playground-support>) to recognize these types and handle them accordingly. The playground logger would look through the `Optional` so that this would effectively be true, but ideally the log data generated by a logger would indicate that it was wrapped by `Optional.some`.

Why not?  I understand that that is how the old algorithm worked, but it contained a lot of special case hacks due to the state of Swift 1 :-).  This is a chance to dissolve those away.

To be clear, I would expect that the conformance for optional would be defined in the playground module along with this protocol - it wouldn’t be defined in the standard library itself.

> One possibility would be to change the API so that it returns an enum. Imagine:
> 	enum PlaygroundLoggingBehavior {
> 		/// Asks the playground logger to generate the standard logging for `self`.
> 		case standard
> 		/// Asks the playground logger to generate logging for the given `Any` instead of `self`.
> 		case custom(Any)
> 	}
> 	protocol CustomPlaygroundLoggable {
> 		/// Returns the `PlaygroundLoggingBehavior` to use for `self`.
> 		var playgroundLoggingBehavior: PlaygroundLoggingBehavior { get }
> 	}
> (To Saagar’s point in another email — you could even add a `case none` to PlaygroundLoggingBehavior to inhibit logging of a particular instance.)
> `CustomPlaygroundLoggable` would be a little clunkier to implement than `CustomPlaygroundRepresentable` is, as in the common case folks would have to write `return .custom(…)`. It’s possible that the clarity and additional flexibility this grants outweighs that cost; I’m not sure, and would love feedback on that.

I just don’t understand the usecase for “conditional customizing” at all.  By way of example, we don’t have the ability to do that with CustomStringConvertible.   What is different about this case?

>>> /// Implementors of `CustomPlaygroundRepresentable` may return a value of one of
>>> /// the above types to also receive a specialized log representation.
>>> /// Implementors may also return any other type, and playground logging will
>>> /// generated structured logging for the returned value.
>>> public protocol CustomPlaygroundRepresentable {
>> On the naming bikeshed, the closest analog to this feature is CustomStringConvertible, which is used when a type wants to customize the default conversion to string.  As such, have you considered CustomPlaygroundConvertible for consistency with it?
>> The only prior art for the word “Representable” in the standard library is RawRepresentable, which is quite a different concept.
>>>   /// Returns the custom playground representation for this instance, or nil if
>>>   /// the default representation should be used.
>>>   ///
>>>   /// If this type has value semantics, the instance returned should be
>>>   /// unaffected by subsequent mutations if possible.
>>>   var playgroundRepresentation: Any? { get }
>> Again to align with CustomStringConvertible which has a ‘description’ member, it might make sense to name this member “playgroundDescription”.
> I’m definitely open to different names for this. (`CustomPlaygroundRepresentable` was inspired by the API I’m removing, `CustomPlaygroundQuickLookable`, as they both take their sole property and make them -able.)
> I do like the `playgroundDescription` name for the property, but am a little hesitant to use the name `CustomPlaygroundConvertible` because conforming types can’t be converted to playgrounds. I can’t come up with an appropriate word in `CustomPlaygroundThingConvertible` to use in place of `Thing`, though. (If we end up pivoting to the enum I described above then something like `CustomPlaygroundLoggable` would be more appropriate.)

I would strongly recommend aligning with the state of the art in CustomStringConvertible (which has been extensively discussed) and ignore the precedent in the existing playground logging stuff (which hasn’t).


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