[swift-evolution] [Review] SE-0191: Eliminate IndexDistance from Collection

Karl Wagner razielim at gmail.com
Wed Nov 29 00:48:41 CST 2017



> On 28. Nov 2017, at 02:34, Douglas Gregor via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
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I thought about this for a long time. Initially I was horrified, but I’ve come to the realisation that it is unnecessary and really makes it much easier to use Collection generically. If we didn’t already have this associatedtype, I don’t think anybody would ever ask for it. It’s perfectly reasonable for the standard-library’s Collection abstraction to be limited to the size of Int.

As Ben said, you can create your own Collection-style abstraction if that doesn’t fit your needs - and in fact, I have just such a protocol, exactly for the use-case that he described: a Collection-like file abstraction which I want to work on a 32-bit machine. That’s a reasonable solution.

The benefit I’ve found from doing that isn’t so much in Collection conformance itself, but just getting inspiration from how it (and its sister types) are structured. These niche cases are going to trip up most generic algorithms anyway, meaning all the benefits you got by conforming to Collection over just Sequence are now potential crashes. For example, if you call “map” on a collection with more than Int.max elements, the result Array couldn’t hold the data.

I could potentially see room for something between Sequence and Collection, like “Space” or something. An object which can retrieve sub-items by an index and whose count may be greater than the number of items storable at any one time in the host machine. Collection could refine “Space”, binding IndexDistance to Int (and effectively removing it as a parameter). The benefit of doing this is that we don’t lose (even theoretical) capability in the standard library, and we have some kind of migration path.

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