[swift-evolution] update on forum

Ted Kremenek kremenek at apple.com
Thu Nov 9 09:15:37 CST 2017


I was thinking all the mailing lists.

> On Nov 9, 2017, at 7:07 AM, Alejandro Martinez <alexito4 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the clarification on that Ted :)
> Are all the mailing list gonna move there or only swift-evo?
> 
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Ted Kremenek via swift-evolution
> <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>> The decision to move to a forum was announced a while ago, and it hasn’t
>> appeared yet.  I think we will be making the move soon and I wanted to
>> provide some reasons why it was delayed and what comes next.
>> 
>> The reasons it was delayed are twofold:
>> 
>> -  When we (the community) decided to move to a forum there was plenty of
>> other planned infrastructure work that was in the works that took immediate
>> priority (such as the source compatibility suite and supporting Swift 4
>> development).
>> 
>> - In August (when Swift 4 was wrapping up) my team at Apple seriously picked
>> up the topic of the forum again and started looking in how to make it
>> happen.  At that point, a bunch of unexpected delays, one after the other,
>> happened.  I can’t share these details (they are mostly non-technical) and
>> going through them would come off as me making a bunch of excuses anyway.  I
>> do realize the forum has been promised and not yet delivered for some time,
>> and I know how frustrating that is to the community.
>> 
>> Here’s what happens next:
>> 
>> - We plan on having the company behind Discourse.org host the forums.  We’re
>> wrapping up the remaining steps to issue a PO, but my hope is to get that
>> all done within the next couple weeks.  Thanksgiving in the USA may delay
>> that to the beginning of December.
>> 
>> - My understanding is the forum will still have a swift.org address, so the
>> hosting is just an implementation detail.
>> 
>> - The company hosting Discourse.org will migrate the existing mailing list
>> archives over to the new forum.  One thing we will need to figure out
>> (possibly as a community?) are specific requirements we have in place for
>> that migration.  The new forums don’t have to exactly mirror how the mailing
>> lists are structured today, and part of the reason to move to the forum was
>> motivated by having new opportunities to structure conversations.
>> 
>> I suspect there will be some trial and error with moving over the existing
>> mailing lists to the new forum, and I don’t have a good feel on how long
>> that will take.  However, once we reach that stage, it should be very
>> transparent to the community what exactly is going on.  My hope is that
>> process will start in December.
>> 
>> Ted
>> 
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