[swift-evolution] Beyond Typewriter-Styled Code in Swift, Adoption of Symbols

Ryan Walklin ryan at testtoast.com
Wed Aug 30 17:49:09 CDT 2017

I think we've possibly moved beyond the scope of swift-evolution. Skim-reading the OP's manifesto demonstrates nothing relevant to general purpose programming languages or Swift in particular.


August 31, 2017 8:40 AM, "John Pratt via swift-evolution"  wrote:
Well, here is one question: 100 years from now do you think all computers 
should use vi? 
At what point would people ever have anything that ever slightly resembles 
something advanced? 
Do you ever want anything that 
slightly resembles science fiction, ever, in society? Or should everyone be 
using vi for the rest of civilization? 
On Aug 30, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Eagle Offshore  wrote: 
While I am in theory a fan of literate programming and enjoy integrated programming environments when they are integrated into a complete literate system (Smalltalk browsers, LISP environments, HyperCard, etc...)...In practice if its just a language and not a complete holistic system, and I can't command the entire thing with God's own editor (I speak of vi - because its "there" and it is the only editor guaranteed to be "there" on any system I am ever likely to try to access), I'm not gonna use it.
Just my $0.02 
On Aug 28, 2017, at 7:57 PM, John Pratt via swift-evolution  wrote: 
 I sent a postal envelope to the Swift team with an article I wrote, arguing that
symbols and graphics would push the programming language forward. 
Wouldn’t it be nice to have an actual multiplication matrix broken out into code, 
instead of typing, “matrix()”? It seems to me Swift has the chance to do that. 
Also: why does "
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