[swift-evolution] SE-0185 Synthesizing Equatable and Hashable conformance
Robert Bennett
rltbennett at icloud.com
Thu Aug 10 17:13:26 CDT 2017
Sorry, I think I misunderstood your earlier email. I believe we are in agreement.
> On Aug 10, 2017, at 5:54 PM, Xiaodi Wu <xiaodi.wu at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, but to be clear, this is an objection that is equally applicable to any change where a protocol requirement is given a default implementation.
>
> Unless I’m mistaken, ordinarily, the addition of such a default implementation isn’t even considered an API change and doesn’t require Swift Evolution approval.
>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 16:41 David Ungar <dungar at apple.com> wrote:
>> As long as I've been clear that the adoption of *this* proposal would transform a misspelling from a bug that the compiler catches to a bug that the compiler does not catch, I feel that my objection has been heard.
>>
>> Thank you all,
>>
>> - David
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 10, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Xiaodi Wu <xiaodi.wu at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Right. The objection raised is applicable to the overriding of any default implementation. However. _this_ proposal under review is about the synthesis of a default implementation, and we shouldn’t try to invent new syntax to address an orthogonal issue—and only partially at that.
>>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 14:45 Robert Bennett via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>>>> Yes, thanks! Here’s the full proposal for those interested: https://github.com/erica/swift-evolution/blob/c541f517dacc2030c987b6d60ad3d26d8ec5fa3a/proposals/XXXX-role-keywords.md
>>>>
>>>> I think that if we want to deal with the issue of some mistake arising from conforming to Equatable and/or Hashable, it should be through that proposal, not something specific to Equatable and Hashable. This sort of issue should not count against this Equatable/Hashable proposal.
>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 10, 2017, at 3:39 PM, Chris Lattner <clattner at nondot.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 10, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Robert Bennett via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I could have sworn that this sort of issue came up on this list earlier this year… Someone proposed a mechanism encompassing all protocols, not just Equatable and Hashable, to handle the issue of mistakenly believing you’re overriding a default implementation. Having trouble finding it at the moment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this what you’re thinking of?
>>>>> https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/pull/724
>>>>>
>>>>> -Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 10, 2017, at 3:09 PM, David Ungar via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I understand it, merely adding Equatable or Hashable will cause the compiler to synthesize requirements. This syntax opens up the possibility for errors:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> struct Snort: Hashable {
>>>>>>> static var hashValu /* NOTE MISSPELLING */ : Int { return 666 }
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the above example, the programmer meant to implement hashValue but misspelled it.
>>>>>>> With the proposal as-is, the error could be covered up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would prefer to see a different syntax than merely adding conformance to "HashValue", in order to distinguish the two cases: explicit supplying the requirement vs synthesis.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, what if we want to extend this idea to other protocols? Perhaps some sort of modifier on the protocol name would be more orthogonal:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> struct Foo: Synth Hashable, Equatable
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would say that Hashable requirements get synthesized but Equatable ones do not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alternatively, it might be clearer, though more verbose to move the signalling inside:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> struct Snort: Hashable {
>>>>>>> synth hashValue
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (I don't advocate this specific syntax, btw.) But it has the virtual of possibly making it clearer to read the code.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TL;DR: I favor the proposal but would prefer modification to make it more explicit.
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