[swift-evolution] [Review] SE-0166: Swift Archival & Serialization

Zach Waldowski zach at waldowski.me
Wed Apr 12 16:12:31 CDT 2017


I want to disagree with this is strongly as possible lest it influence
the proposal in any way whatsoever. Just because you can solve something
through reflection doesn't mean you should.

  Zachary Waldowski
  zach at waldowski.me

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017, at 03:22 PM, Brad Hilton via swift-evolution
wrote:
> -1. I support the motivation, but I think this proposal and SE-0167 are
> too premature.
> 
> Don’t get me wrong, I think that Swift leaves much to be desired as far
> as serialization/deserialization goes. However I think that these
> proposals are putting the cart before the horse. I think we first need to
> add genuine reflection APIs before adding encoding/decoding capabilities
> to the stdlib. Reflection will substantially simply most
> serialization/deserialization task. These APIs borrow too much Cocoa’s
> native archiving capabilities for my taste and I’d rather not introduce
> something that may be considered legacy in the future.
> 
> 
> > Hello Swift community,
> > 
> > 
> > The review of SE-0166 "Swift Archival&Serialization" begins now and runs through April 12, 2017. The proposal is available here:
> > 
> > > https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0166-swift-archival-serialization.md
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