[swift-evolution] [Pitch] Remove type-inference for stored property

Daniel Duan daniel at duan.org
Mon Apr 10 12:48:38 CDT 2017

No offense taken. 

There's no inherent problem with designing language with available tools in mind. After all, what we put in the language is a strict subset of what's viable in a compiler. 

IMHO Swift should care more about separation of language and tools due to its long-term ambition: is it a good language out side of the most typical experience? If I edit the source with my favorite editor, on Linux, and/or compile with an alternative compiler, can I get a similar experience ?

A language that conquers the world shouldn't depend on tools to be awesome.

Daniel Duan
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> On Apr 10, 2017, at 10:22 AM, Sean Heber <sean at fifthace.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 10, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Daniel Duan <daniel at duan.org> wrote:
>> Using tools isn't a bad thing. Designing language assuming users are using tools with certain capability is kind of a bad thing.
> I see this sentiment on this list a lot. Where does it come from? Is there any supporting research? What drives it?
> (I don’t mean to pick on Daniel - I’m curious about this overall from anyone that has sources. It has become such a prevailing refrain at times that I think it’d be best for everyone if we knew if it was even true!)
> l8r
> Sean

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