[swift-evolution] [Pitch] Remove type-inference for stored property

Daniel Duan daniel at duan.org
Mon Apr 10 10:58:40 CDT 2017


It is helpful in the sense that it tells us what’s really inconsistent: beginner’s have to learn when inference is available when declaring their types. That’s story is sketchy.
> On Apr 10, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Sean Heber <sean at fifthace.com> wrote:
> 
> This is not really a helpful comment, but: I kinda wish they did.
> 
> l8r
> Sean
> 
>> On Apr 10, 2017, at 10:54 AM, Daniel Duan via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Neither of these works btw.
>> 
>> func bar(myString = “hello”)
>> class Baz {
>>  let myString = { return “hello” }()
>> }
>> 
>>> On Apr 9, 2017, at 11:26 PM, Jean-Daniel <mailing at xenonium.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m full -1 on this one. It will make the language inconsistent. How do you explain a new comer that type inference work in some case, but not in other cases, while in both the compiler is completely capable to define the type.
>>> 
>>> Why 
>>> 
>>> let myString = "hello" 
>>> 
>>> would be accepted but not 
>>> 
>>> class Foo {
>>> 	let myString = "hello" 
>>> }
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Le 10 avr. 2017 à 04:05, Daniel Duan via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> a écrit :
>>>> 
>>>> I’m still not sure whether *I* want this. But here’s a proposal anyways: https://gist.github.com/dduan/5017a0b0f0880d014f4ce14c4ca7fb55
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 7, 2017, at 12:21 AM, Daniel Duan via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> In a discussion about inferring parameter types from default value, Slava brought up some performance problems caused by type inference for stored properties in side types:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-evolution/Week-of-Mon-20170313/033882.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> Towards the end, the post mentioned that some Swift team members contemplated requiring types for stored properties in type declarations. I think this idea deserves some more attention. Hence this last minute idea-floating.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In addition to solving a performance headache in implementation, there're always the general benefit of making type declartion more explicit and readable (clarity for reader should out-weigh pleasure of the author). Making the
>>>>> language slightly more consistent (we are not inferring types for default parameter values in function anyways).
>>>>> 
>>>>> The cons for doing this are obvious too: the inference makes the language feels more friendly and is, undoubtedly, a beloved feature for many. This would be a source breaking change.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just thought I'd float the idea to gather some quick reaction. What do y'all think?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Daniel Duan
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