[swift-evolution] [Review] SE-0169: Improve Interaction Between private Declarations and Extensions

Vladimir.S svabox at gmail.com
Thu Apr 6 19:05:22 CDT 2017


If you don't want to resolve the mistake of SE-0025 by proposing a really 
solution but not a workaround, then just leave the things where they are 
currently. Proposed "improvement" IMO is more confusing than helping.

Sorry, I don't buy <<..most of those proposals are not in scope for 
discussion in Swift 4 (or any later release), given the significant impact 
on source compatibility>>, because SE-0169 is also a source breaking 
change, and the problem of access modifiers is important enough to relax 
the rule of source compatibility for it, *especially if this is the last 
chance*.
Also, it seems like core team was ready to accept SE-0159(Fix Private 
Access Levels) which also has impact on source compatibility(given it 
suggested to remove scoped-private).
IMO SE-0159 + new 'scoped' keyword for scoped-private is the solution we need.

So, -1 from me.

On 07.04.2017 2:10, Douglas Gregor via swift-evolution wrote:
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