[swift-evolution] Type-based =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=98private=E2=80=99_?=access within a file
swift at lng.la
Mon Apr 3 19:26:53 CDT 2017
Pretty bummed out about the rejection. I know it's a petty aesthetic issue, but thinking about having to write "fileprivate" 5 or 10 years from now kills more of my enthusiasm about using the language than I'd like to admit. I think it's going to always be viewed by most as a major wart on an otherwise great language. Hopefully we can be more careful in the future about letting this sort of thing get through in the first place.
All that said, I'll support a proposal along the lines of what's being suggested.
> On Apr 3, 2017, at 12:34 PM, Douglas Gregor via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> Hello Swift Community,
> In rejecting SE-0159, the core team described a potential direction we would like to investigate for “private” access control that admits a limited form of type-based access control within files. The core team is seeking some discussion here and a motivated volunteer to put together a proposal along these lines for review in the Swift 4 time-frame (i.e., very soon). To be clear, the core team it’s sure this is the right direction to go… but it appears promising and we would *love* to be able to settle the access-control issue.
> The design, specifically, is that a “private” member declared within a type “X” or an extension thereof would be accessible from:
> * An extension of “X” in the same file
> * The definition of “X”, if it occurs in the same file
> * A nested type (or extension thereof) of one of the above that occurs in the same file
> This design has a number of apparent benefits:
> + “private” becomes the right default for “less than whole module” visibility, and aligns well with Swift coding style that divides a type’s definition into a number of extensions.
> + “fileprivate” remains for existing use cases, but now it’s use it more rare, which has several advantages:
> + It fits well with the "progressive disclosure” philosophy behind Swift: you can use public/internal/private for a while before encountering and having to learn about “fileprivate” (note: we thought this was going to be true of SE-0025, but we were clearly wrong)
> + When “fileprivate” occurs, it means there’s some interesting coupling between different types in the same file. That makes fileprivate a useful alert to the reader rather than, potentially, something that we routinely use and overlook so that we can separate implementations into extensions.
> + “private” is more closely aligned with other programming languages that use type-based access control, which can help programmers just coming to Swift. When they reach for “private”, they’re likely to get something similar to what they expect—with a little Swift twist due to Swift’s heavy use of extensions.
> + Loosening the access restrictions on “private” is unlikely to break existing code.
> There are likely some drawbacks:
> - Developers using patterns that depend on the existing lexically-scoped access control of “private” may find this new interpretation of “private” to be insufficiently strict
> - Swift’s access control would go from “entirely lexical” to “partly lexical and partly type-based”, which can be viewed as being more complicated
> Thoughts? Volunteer?
> - Doug
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