[swift-evolution] [Review] SE-0161: Smart KeyPaths: Better Key-Value Coding for Swift

Karl Wagner razielim at gmail.com
Thu Mar 30 15:08:48 CDT 2017


> What is your evaluation of the proposal?
+1

> Is the problem being addressed significant enough to warrant a change to Swift?
Yes

> Does this proposal fit well with the feel and direction of Swift?
Yes

> If you have used other languages or libraries with a similar feature, how do you feel that this proposal compares to those?
Lots of languages have key-paths, but usually they are strings. This adds some type-safety, so that’s nice.

> How much effort did you put into your review? A glance, a quick reading, or an in-depth study?
A quick reading. I also have a couple of questions:

1) Can we get keypaths from protocol existentials?

protocol MyProto {
    var something: Int { get }
}
struct MyThing: MyProto { /* … */ }

let myProtoSomethingKeypath = #keypath(MyProto, .something)
let value: Int = MyThing()[keypath: myProtoSomethingKeypath]  // seems reasonable, right?

2) What about if it has associated types?

let secondElement = #keypath(Collection, .subscript[1])  // if Collection.Iterator.Element had constraints, could we dig in to the instance?

let _: Int = [1,2,3][keypath: secondElement]
let _: String = [“a”, “b”, “c”][keypath: secondElement]


But I’d still +1 the proposal even if was limited to concrete types.

Also, that brings me to 2 related comments regarding the evolution of the feature:

1) It would be nice to allow keypaths of constrained protocol existentials

    let secondElementFirstCharacter = #keypath(Collection where Iterator.Element == String, .subscript[0].characters.first)

2) It would be nice to be able to get keypaths to members which we don’t know exist. Members and protocol conformances may be retroactively added by 3rd-party code.

And that’s all.

- Karl

> On 30 Mar 2017, at 18:25, Douglas Gregor via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello Swift community,
> 
> The review of SE-0161 "Smart KeyPaths: Better Key-Value Coding for Swift" begins now and runs through April 5, 2017. The proposal is available here:
> 
> https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0161-key-paths.md <https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0161-key-paths.md>
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