[swift-evolution] [Review] SE-0159: Fix Private Access Levels

Michael Ilseman milseman at apple.com
Fri Mar 24 12:56:55 CDT 2017


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While I believe that "fileprivate is the one true private" and was opposed to how SE-0025 turned out, this doesn’t fix access control. It introduces language churn without a replacement solution during a time when source compatibility is very important. The cognitive retraining price was paid in Swift 3, and even if that was a mistake it doesn’t justify forcing everyone to pay it again, especially those who are now adopting a more stable and mature language compared to Swift 2. That price is better paid when there’s a replacement, e.g. some comprehensive redesign or submodules.



> On Mar 20, 2017, at 4:54 PM, Douglas Gregor via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
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> Hello Swift community,
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> The review of SE-0159 "Fix Private Access Levels" begins now and runs through March 27, 2017. The proposal is available here:
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> https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0159-fix-private-access-levels.md <https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0159-fix-private-access-levels.md>
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