[swift-evolution] [Pitch] Typed throws
Matthew Johnson
matthew at anandabits.com
Wed Feb 22 09:51:57 CST 2017
> On Feb 22, 2017, at 8:32 AM, John McCall via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
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>> On Feb 21, 2017, at 11:50 PM, Chris Lattner <clattner at nondot.org> wrote:
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>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 11:12 PM, John McCall <rjmccall at apple.com> wrote:
>>>> As you know, I still think that adding typed throws is the right thing to do. I understand your concern about “the feature could be misused” but the same thing is true about many other language features.
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>>> That's fair, but I do think there's an important difference here. The way I see it, typed-throws is really something of an expert feature, not because it's at all difficult to use, but the reverse: because it's easy to use without really thinking about the consequences. (And the benefits are pretty subtle, too.) I'm not saying that we should design it to be hard to use, but I think maybe it shouldn't immediately suggest itself, and it especially shouldn't come across as just a more specific version of throws.
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>> Yeah, I agree that it will be appealing to people who don’t know better, but here’s the thing: the (almost certain) Swift design will prevent the bad thing from happening in practice.
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>> Consider the barriers Swift already puts in place to prevent the bad thing (declaring an inappropriately narrow explicitly-specified throw signature) from happening:
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>> 1) First of all, you need to declare a public API. If it isn’t public, then there is no concern at all, you can evolve the implementation and clients together.
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>> 2) The Second problem depends on the number of errors it can throw. If there is exactly one type of error, the most common way to handle it is by returning optional. If you have one obvious failure mode with a value, then you throw that value. The most common case is where you can throw more than one sort of error, and therefore have an enum to describe it.
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>> 3) Third, your enum needs to be declared fragile in order to allow clients to enumerate their cases specifically.
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>> The third step (having to mark your enum fragile, however it is spelled) is the biggest sign that you’re opting into a commitment that you should think really hard about. If folks don’t know that this is a big API commitment, then we have bigger problems.
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> You're imagining somebody adding a throws annotation because their function itself has one or two explicit throw sites. In reality, it's probably because they're calling some other function that can throw. The low-impedence path in that case is to declare that you throw whatever that function throws; this is why people talk about exceptions encoding your library's dependency tree.
A function should absolutely consider carefully how it propagates errors. That doesn’t mean that it shouldn’t be allowed to provide an appropriate abstraction that bounds the errors it might throw. We should try to make this easy to do. Sometimes `Error` will be the appropriate bound and other times it will be very useful to provide a more granular bound that is not simply “here’s everything my dependencies can throw”.
Of course this power can be abused. But by designing a system that makes doing the right thing ergonomic and educating the community about how to use it I think we can avoid the worst problems people have faced in other languages like Java.
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>>>> One thing you didn’t mention is that boxing thrown values in an existential requires allocation in the general case. This may be unacceptable for some classes of Swift application (in the embedded / deep systems space) or simply undesirable because of the performance implication.
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>>> So, the performance implication cuts both ways. We can design the ABI for typed-throws so that, say, the callee initializes some buffer that's passed into it. That's an ABI that will kill some potential allocations in deep systems code, no question about it.
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>> Agreed.
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>>> But in non-deep-systems code, we generally expect that error types will be resilient, which means that there are non-zero dynamic costs for allocating space on the stack for the error.
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>> Proposed solution: ABI is that the callee takes in a register which is either a buffer address to fill in or null. On error, the callee returns the error pointer in a specific register. If there was a buffer passed in, it uses it, otherwise it allocates.
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>> In practice, this allows the compiler to only pre-allocate the buffer when it knows the fixed size, otherwise the caller allocates on the heap on demand.
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>> AFAICT, the cost of this API is only a “li rN, 0” in the normal path.
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> If you're willing to give up on a no-malloc guarantee, even if the fact of resilience, yes, this and similar techniques would work. I'm not sure that all "deep systems" code is quite that deep.
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> John.
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