[swift-evolution] final + lazy + fileprivate modifiers

[Matthew Johnson]

> On Feb 20, 2017, at 11:02 AM, David Hart <david at hartbit.com> wrote:
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>> On 20 Feb 2017, at 16:43, Matthew Johnson <matthew at anandabits.com <mailto:matthew at anandabits.com>> wrote:
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>>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 12:31 AM, David Hart via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution at swift.org>> wrote:
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>>>> On 20 Feb 2017, at 00:52, Tony Arnold via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution at swift.org>> wrote:
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>>>>> On 20 Feb 2017, at 06:25, Jose Cheyo Jimenez via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution at swift.org>> wrote:
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>>>>> We need more examples to make this case. 
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>>>> How do we provide those examples? This thread has been actively discussed for close to a week now, so it would be good to do something concrete about it. I think Chris’ second suggestion fits my idea of a reasonable “Default” level of privacy when starting out, and fits the model of progressive disclosure as you so excellently pointed out.
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>>>> Is this something that should go through a proper Proposal? Is someone doing this already? I’d like to help/contribute if it is.
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>>> Chris' second suggestion was dropped by Chris himself after we discussed the disadvantages it adds. I am already working on a proposal to revert to Swift 2's private and it should be ready soon. 
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>> Since you’re already drafting a proposal I will not draft the one I was thinking of.
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> My proposal will represent my point of view (only one file-based private), but I am mentioning your suggestions in the Alternatives considered section to open debate during vote and so that the core team can decide amongst multiple alternatives.
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> By the way, do you want to send me part of your proposal so I can copy/paste some of your arguments in the Alternatives considered section?
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> I’d be better if the proposal represented well the different community opinions :)

Agree.  I’d be happy to collaborate on helping to fill out the alternative section.  I’ll write something up and send it off list for you to incorporate as desired.

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> David.
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>>>> thanks,
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>>>> Tony
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