[swift-evolution] [swift-users] Plan to move swift-evolution and swift-users mailing lists to Discourse

Lane Schwartz dowobeha at gmail.com
Sun Feb 19 15:41:40 CST 2017

Hi all,

I'm sure there are good reasons for this switch. Personally, I strongly
prefer email lists to forums.

This move will make it harder for me to participate in future discussions
and I will be less inclined to take the effort to sign into a forum do so.

Is there a plan to enable an integrated mailing list functionality so that
those of us who prefer that modality can continue to participate via email?
Other forum software that I've been asked to use in the past (sorry, I
can't remember the name) had this functionality, and it made a huge
difference for me.


On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Ted kremenek via swift-users <
swift-users at swift.org> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> There was a long thread on swift-evolution about whether we should use
> modern forum software — like Discourse — as an alternative to the mailing
> lists we have now.  After a long discussion, the Core Team has decided to
> move swift-evolution and swift-users to Discourse.
> There are tradeoffs to moving to a forum.  The main advantages are:
> - Easy for people to participate without subscribing to the entire mailing
> list, as well as no need to provide email address to participate.  A lot of
> people have voiced concern that they feel resistance to participate because
> of needing to subscribe to a mailing list.
> - Consistent affordances and rendering of content, including Markdown
> support.  This is really useful for having technical discussions.
> - Better searching of topics, archiving, etc.
> - More tools for moderation.
> - Topic cross-referencing, and consistent organization of topics instead
> of whatever threading support a mail client provides (which is
> inconsistent).
> I also want to consider moving the -dev lists to the same forum setup as
> well; but that will be a separate conversation on those lists.
> A rollout plan has not been figured out.  People are busy and there are
> logistics to figure out.  I will be engaging a handful of members from the
> community to help with the transition.  Specifically, there are those who
> really value using email for participation on swift-evolution and
> swift-users, and the goal is to get the forum setup to allow those people
> to continue to feel effective when using email for discussions on these
> "lists".
> More details will be announced as they get figured out, but I felt it was
> important to let the community know about this direction.
> Ted
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When a place gets crowded enough to require ID's, social collapse is not
far away.  It is time to go elsewhere.  The best thing about space travel
is that it made it possible to go elsewhere.
                -- R.A. Heinlein, "Time Enough For Love"
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