[swift-evolution] Overriding protocol default implementation

Xiaodi Wu xiaodi.wu at gmail.com
Fri Feb 10 16:54:47 CST 2017


Robert, this is a tricky part of Swift. I raised the same point in my very
first email to this list a year and a half ago, and the response was that
no default/implement/override keyword was desired and that this behavior is
intentional. It has since been raised multiple times on this list to the
same conclusion.

The idea here is that protocol extension methods that are not protocol
requirements are statically dispatched and can be shadowed but not
overridden. If you read through some of the Swift-Evolution proposals,
you'll see that there are several designs that actually seek to take
advantage of this behavior. I can't recall which of these were actually
implemented in that way, but it does indeed show that the behavior has its
uses.

Many have suggested some sort of keyword to distinguish overriding and
shadowing. However, every such proposed design thus far breaks retroactive
conformance in some subtle way. It's hard to search the archives, but there
are hundreds of emails on this topic.


On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 15:57 Goffredo Marocchi via swift-evolution <
swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:

I remain very unconvinced that type casting should change code being
executed...

Sent from my iPhone

On 10 Feb 2017, at 21:04, David Waite via swift-evolution <
swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:


On Feb 10, 2017, at 12:41 PM, Robert Ryan via swift-evolution <
swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:


I’m hard pressed to think of a situation where you’d want the current Swift
3 behavior of the first example (where you can override a protocol default
implementation but you only want that override used when you reference the
class itself, but not when you reference the protocol as a type).


Thats easy - the extension methods are not related to protocol conformance.
The type implementing the protocol may not even know there *is* an
extension method, or that method could be added either later or by yet
other third party code.

As such, the type may not be overriding the extension method at all - the
protocol-implementing types may have their own method with a conflicting
name doing similar (or not) logic. It would not be appropriate for someone
calling the protocol extension method to get different behavior simply
because a type declared a similar named method.

In other words, without the method being declared on the protocol, override
behavior between an extension and type would be similar to unsafe “duck”
typing. There is no agreement by the type that they are conforming to
extension behavior, only to the protocol’s behavior.

IMHO the issue actually goes the other way
 - there is no way to indicate that an extension method to a protocol is
meant to declare ‘default’ behavior, e.g. represents a partial
implementation for types conforming to the protocol.
 - there is no way to indicate that a type property/method ‘implements’ the
functionality of a protocol.

The lack of a distinction between extensions declaring random methods and
declaring default implementation behavior is obviously an element of
confusion. Both points become an issue if the protocol method signatures
ever changes - the extension could no longer be providing a default
implementation, or a type may silently switch from their own implementation
to the default implementation provided by the extension.

-DW

If there are such examples, then add a “build setting” to allow you to turn
off this warning, or add some keyword to the declaration of the default
implementation that indicates that you’re allowing it to be overridden, but
protocol types won’t use it (e.g. nondynamic). Personally, I’d just add the
warning and call it a day (because I don’t know why you’d ever want the
current Swift 3 behavior).

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