[swift-evolution] [Discussion] mailing list alternative

Zach Drayer zachary.drayer at gmail.com
Thu Feb 2 22:12:29 CST 2017

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> On Feb 2, 2017, at 3:15 PM, James Berry via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>> On Feb 2, 2017, at 2:44 PM, Nevin Brackett-Rozinsky via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>> Where do you propose to hold and publicize such a vote in order that the people who would participate on a forum but not on a mailing list―ie. those for whom the switch will be most beneficial―are enfranchised?
> The traditional method on a list like this is +1 or -1 in response to a given thread. (Note that I’m not calling for such a vote, as I have nothing to propose). A perhaps more modern approach would be to give a link to an external site that would run the vote/poll.
> As to your question of how to reach an audience larger than what we have now for a vote, I don’t see any obvious solution: the current community is what it is. And I would argue that the current community has invested the most time into the project (and likely will going forward) and should have the largest vote for how project communication should be facilitated.
I don't know if the idea that knowing how to use/being comfortable with using a mailing list somehow means your input more valuable than that of someone else is one that I'm comfortable with.

> I wouldn’t advocate for advertising far and wide over the internet “how should the swift-evolution community communicate?”, as this would be a vote of the internet, and not of the swift-evolution community.
The entire purpose of this discussion is about how best to open swift-evolution up to more people. Why would we ignore input from people who may otherwise be involved?

> I do admit you could argue the community may have already self-selected to some degree based on the current method of commutation; I see no real solution to that apart from continued advocacy from people such as you who are speaking up to bring awareness about the issues you feel are keeping outsiders from participating.
We could try asking people in some non-mailing-list fashion?

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