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[Joshua Alvarado]

We could mark it as high priority. ;)

But yes you are correct. Keeping a poll and a count won't do any good if Apple won't actually change the infrastructure. This topic is for an official change and not an spun up chat room. I do believe that if the issue is strong then it may be heard but if everyone is okay with the current implementation I don't want to push anything in the wrong direction.

Alvarado, Joshua

> On Jan 23, 2017, at 2:41 PM, David Waite <david at alkaline-solutions.com> wrote:
> 
> I meant more that we are dependent on Apple to actually change the existing official infrastructure to some new system. If all we want is an unofficial forum, any one of us could set that up now and invite people over for talk and snacks.
> 
> I assume swift-evolution is more of a meritocracy than a democracy - bringing up a topic again and taking votes may do little good if it doesn’t also bring up new justification to prioritize infrastructure changes.
> 
> But if we were using an issue tracker, I could mark this as a duplicate ;-)
> 
> -DW
> 
>> On Jan 23, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Joshua Alvarado <alvaradojoshua0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It will be painted! ;)
>> 
>> So far we have:
>> +2 Disclosure 
>> +1 Slack
>> +1 Issue tracker
>> 
>> Let's really get everyone's opinions and see if we can get this rock rolling towards a better solution. Of course it will be Apple's choice in the end but we can give a voice on the matter to show we do care about moving over. 
>> 
>> Alvarado, Joshua
>> 
>>> On Jan 23, 2017, at 10:55 AM, David Waite <david at alkaline-solutions.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> As long as we are pretending this bike shed is getting painted again…
>>> 
>>> I would actually prefer something closer to an issue tracker than discourse. We get a lot of repeat and diverging topics, and it would be nice to mark discussions as related, duplicates, etc
>>> 
>>> -DW
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 23, 2017, at 9:22 AM, Adrian Zubarev via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> +1 for Discourse. Cannot wait any longer for this to happen.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> Am 23. Januar 2017 um 17:18:42, Joshua Alvarado via swift-evolution (swift-evolution at swift.org) schrieb:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hey swifters,
>>>>>   I would like to (re)open up discussion on moving away from email for the swift evolution mailing list. I know this has probably been discussed before but it really should be addressed again. I wouldn't even know how to find if it has been discussed before because it would be too hard to go back through the history. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The main factors to move away from email is because email may deter newcomers, history, and threads. I may be speaking for myself when saying email may intimidate newcomers from expressing their opinions and thoughts. It is hard to know what has already been discussed and who is even in the active conversation. Keeping track of history is a pain as well. Searching through many emails to find who said what and when is not effective in email clients. Also, code formatting in emails is not effective. Let's discuss and actually make an action to move away from email if the community so agrees. Of course, recommendations are Slack, Hipchat (-1), and Gitter.
>>>>> 
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