[swift-evolution] [Pitch] Add the DefaultConstructible protocol to the standard library

Adam Nemecek adamnemecek at gmail.com
Mon Dec 26 16:36:45 CST 2016


> here weren't one, that hypothetical machine is, logically speaking,
stripping the absolute-pitch-ness off of the MIDI note used for
transposition and using it as a relative pitch offset.

Indeed.

> It's like the relationship between dates on the calendar and time
intervals (10 days).

No it's not. Two days cannot occur at the same time. Two events totally
can. It's more like signals that combine.



On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Dave Abrahams <dabrahams at apple.com> wrote:

>
> on Mon Dec 26 2016, Adam Nemecek <adamnemecek-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> `ManagedBuffer` is the standard library base class that offers
> facilities
> > for managing buffers. If there's a concrete use case that isn't served,
> > then the argument would be to improve `ManagedBuffer` or to design other
> > types or protocols for that use case, not to add a protocol to conform
> > every type that implements `init()`.
> >
> > I'd prefer not to deal with raw storage unless necessary.
> >
> >> The distance between two values of type T does not itself need to be of
> > type T,
> >
> > Never said otherwise.
> >
> >> Moreover, one can have distances being strideable opaque types that
> can't
> > even be initialized
> >
> > You sure can. Doesn't disprove any of my points.
> >
> >> This example does not make sense, computationally or musically.
> >
> > You mean that it does not make any sense to you. I have two midi streams
> > (and they are midi) and I want to use one midi note to transpose the
> other.
> > I'm pretty sure that I can find a machine that does this in hardware if I
> > really try. Does the fact that such machine might exist imbue the concept
> > of midi addition with any meaning?
>
> There's a Channel Coarse Tuning SysEx message for this purpose.  Even if
> there weren't one, that hypothetical machine is, logically speaking,
> stripping the absolute-pitch-ness off of the MIDI note used for
> transposition and using it as a relative pitch offset.  It's like the
> relationship between dates on the calendar and time intervals (10 days).
>
> --
> -Dave
>
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